I just finished helping a friend paint the interior of probably our 20th
house in the last 10 years. Typically he rolls on the latex to paint the
walls and I cut in. Also I do most of the oil based enamel trim painting.
Through the years he has always used thinner to thin the paint and to clean
the brushes. It has always been a pet peeve of mine to come back after
lunch and begin the trim work again. I always clean the brush in thinner
before leaving and when I resume painting the residual thinner in the brush
blends with the paint in the brush and runs down the handle for the next
hour. I HATE THAT! And It never starts immediately, it begins 15 minutes
after thinking I am starting with a "basically dry" brush. I often will
prime the brush with a very small bit of thinner but what resides after
cleaning is way way more than "a bit".
This time around he brought mineral spirits, odorless AAMOF.
1. No odor, although Swingman would testify that is smells like a refinery
13.6 miles NE of Pasadena, TX had just released .003 atoms of smelly stuff
into the atmosphere about 15 minutes prior. ;~)
2. It works just as well as thinner for cleaning the brushes.
3. I never once had a friggin dripping brush after lunch.
Does mineral spirits evaporate faster than thinner?
I don't know about the evaporation rate.
When I have to take a less than overnight break from painting/staining I wrap
the brush/roller/pad tightly in kitchen plastic wrap and set it aside. If
than that I'll clean an oil based applicator. This will work for latex paint
and if you freeze it you can save it for days. I've not tried this with lacquer
so I can't say if it will work for it.
Seems unreasonable given that paint thinner is primarily if not entirely
mineral spirits. This information is based on the various cans I've looked
at over the years...
Try wrapping the paint wet brush in plastic wrap during lunch rather than
cleaning the brush. --OR-- Spin the brush to get rid of the fluid trapped in
the heel and then dry well with paper towels and wrap the brush in newspaper
to absorb fluid during lunch. It helps to suspend the brush by the handle,
bristles down so that gravity helps the fluid migrate out of the heel.
It has always been a pet peeve of mine to come back after
Jeez- a zip-lock baggie to hold the brush over lunch should do the
trick, with no thinner, cleaning or solvent needed. Just stick
the brush in, with lots of paint in the bristles, and zip the
baggie's top as closed as it will go.
Wellll, yes and no. "Thinners" can be mineral, but don't have to be.
Petroleum based "thinners", like Varsol are purely petroleum based.
Then there are turpentine based (pine-resin distillate) and blends of
both of the above. Pure terps stink to high heaven , but not too
offensive to some, but boy does it clean a brush. Then again, so does
gasoline, favourite brush-cleaner of many. ( A little Agent Orange
never hurt anybody.)
The **ulene types of thinners/cleaners can also be found blended with
either terps or petroleum based solvents... lacquer thinner can be one
of those. My paint-booth guru of yore sold me 2 grades of "thinners",
one to thin my lacquers, one to clean my equipment. Smelled the same,
but clearly weren't. Sikkens M600 is still THE stuff that cleans my
Iwata HVLP the best.
Varsol, on the other hand, is what I would consider a 'real' mineral
spirit. "Varsol Fluids can be used in a wide variety of applications,
including thinners for paint and coatings, general purpose cleaners,
dry cleaning fluids, fuel additives and asphalt viscosity reducers."
What I like about Varsol, is that it is cheap. It won't screw up your
$ 30.00 Purdy brush. The other so-called cleaners and thinners don't
go near my arsenal of Purdy's. (I love those round pointed french sash
I have to hide my Purdys. My wife gets a hold of them while I'm away at work,
then has NO
idea how to clean them out. When it comes to women I've mostly learned when to
mouth shut, but these little episodes completely blow it for me! :-)
"Even if your wife is happy but you're unhappy, you're still happier
than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
Please don't tar all women with that same brush.
I have a client--a woman--who's *far* more fastidious about cleaning and
maintaining her painting tools than I am. And I'm not particularly a
slouch about such things; I value my few good paintbrushes.
Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?
I wasn't. Not sure how you drew that conclusion...
I believe you. But if she left your best cordless drill out in the rain to rust
keep your mouth shut or give her a lecture? I kept my mouth shut when my wife
did that to
me. But after about the third Purdy brush she clogged up with latex... well a
guy can only
clam up for so long. :-)
"Our beer goes through thousands of quality Czechs every day."
(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
"HATE" doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about painting.
Of course, the fact that I'm your basic "3 and 1" painter, probably
3 and 1 = 3 parts on me and 1 part on what I'm trying to paint.
LOL, I remember those days. I was there. I guest after doing 20 something
homes you get better at it. You eventually learn not to touch the wet
stuff, LOL. Oil is unforgiving, it doesn't just wipe off although if you
carry a rag with a little thinner on one corner it removes the unexpected
immediately. Latex rubs off just like TBIII.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:08:20 -0700, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
I'm just the opposite. I've had clients who came outside after 3
hours with me painting and they just stood and looked at me. "How can
you be so neat?" I reply "Heck, I have paint all over me. Well, both
of these fingers, anyway." I use a damp rag and I clean up drips,
runs, and smears instantly so not much gets on me. <shrug>
When I do caulking, OTOH, I'm more like you. Caulk all over both
hands, both forearms, and usually on the back of my shirt, where I've
backed into it _somehow_...
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
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