Apologies...

[JNugent]

...for writing a "test" post.

My SMTP settings are proving elusive - working in some NGs and resolutely not in others.

[Andy Burns]

What's SMTP got to do with a non-moderated group?

[JNugent]

That's SMTP as in the return path on a usenet account.

Every account I have on this PC has reset itself over the last few days and passwords, etc, have had to be re-submitted.

News.individual.net's SMTP setting are always a problem when this happens. I needed to experiment.

At least, staying on topic, I did it myself.

[Paul]

USENET uses nothing but NNTP protocol.

SMTP is not involved. SMTP stands for "Simple Mail Transfer Protocol" and is an email technology.

USENET activity can be spoofed with a telnet session to Port 119

telnet news.individual.net 119

and then, how could SMTP possibly be involved ???

Sample article. Demonstrating some commands.

OK, you tried that, and it didn't work and funny things happened. Well, the problem is, NNTP servers today, use "fast" connections and the connection is dropped, practically as soon as the user stops providing input. You have to work at "machine speed" to keep a connection. By implementing this in INN, you can handle about

10X as many customers. But you also ruin the joys of exercising NNTP protocol over Telnet or Stelnet.

We'll have to be content with this then, as a proof of concept.

Paul

[anon]

There are plenty of test newsgroups on most servers for this very purpose. atl.test is one

Meanwhile this may prove of interest (rejected on ULM)

Are you sure that for some reas>> >>>> >>>>> The leader of the Labour Party is not warranted any respect. >>>

In the *orignal* post you claim not to have written, you wrote

*three* lines in all.

Which taken together *do* make sense.

<quote>

</quote>

If not strictly in accordance with what one might expect you to post in respect of the Labour Party.

I suggest you check again. Because accusations of forgery. even when totally unwarranted as in this case, can undermine trust in the Group.

....

[JNugent]

It's what I was instructed to do by the FAQ at the news.individual.net website.

The default setting had a default setting to the email server at my ISP. But changing it to news.individual.net allowed me to post to usenet again.

<shrug>

What I was finding before making that adjustment was that I could post to some NGs (eg, alt.test) but not to others (eg, this one).

[JNugent]

[ ... ]

Well, quite.

I am accusing no-one.

But as you probably know, there has been a certain amount of forgery in a few other groups.

[anon]

<quote>

</quote>

Its perfectly reasonable for anyone to interpret the above statement as accusing someone else of having posted that particular message; *even more so* when forgeries have emerged on other groups

[JNugent]

I am accusing no-one.

I can certainly identify no-one to accuse.

Whom do you say is being accused?

[anon]

Whoever it was, who wrote and posted the message you yourself do not recall writing or posting.

Unless of course you're suggesting that Usenet messages are capable of spontaneously writing and posting themselves using an identical NewsReader, NewsServer and posting address as you yourself.

[Brian Gaff (Sofa]

Is not that nntp? Brian

[Dave Plowman (News]

I use the free News Eternal September and AIOE. Why both? They don't both carry all the groups I want. Although obviously some are on both. But I do seem to be able to post to any using just one of them.

[JNugent]

The nntp bit was working - I was seeing posts.

It was not being able to send posts to usenet (at least, in some NGs) that was the difficulty, hence my visit to the news.individual.net website and following the instructions. And also the reason for posting a test post (and my subsequent apology for that).

I can only report what I read at that site. I don't think the university was trying to advise me on how to set up email (as opposed to usenet), but will gladly defer to anyone with better knowledge of how all this works.

[AnthonyL]

1) alt.test for test posts 2) OT: at least if posting in another group 3) SMPT is not used in Usenet

I wonder what else is wrong?

[JNugent]

I used to use the Pipex news server (when it existed - and at a far from cheap price for the ISP's services). It was pretty good, giving access even to binary groups. But one day, they just announced that they were withdrawing it, hence my signing up with the Berlin university (and changing ISP). I did try one or two of the "free" servers, but settled on the ten Euro sub from Berlin.

[JNugent]

Seems to be working now.

Another thing I did was to uninstall the current version of Thunderbird and re-install a version (which I'd kept on a backup drive) from a couple of years ago. I can feel (and even see) the differences.

[Andy Burns]

It can be for moderated groups (but that doesn't apply here)

[JNugent]

Oddly... it was in a moderated group that the problem manifested itself. I'd already successfully posted in two other groups (alt.test and a disused uk.rec.* group).

Something seems to have fixed it though.