It's mostly fresh (or brackish) water, if you are actually interested.
I don't, to anyone (keep up).
Would that still come under 'letter' for postage purposes?
The world must be so straightforward to you left brainers ... except for completely missing out on all analogies of course.
'The point' is that if someone has explicitly requested someone doesn't send them an Xmyth card for several perfectly valid and genuine reasons (one of being the environmental impact of such procedures), how do you then get through to them that you are serious about your request? And it's not just the one card, it's all the cards set to me ad everone else who would rather prefer they didn't.
It's the same as smoking. When I asked non smokers (and even some smokers) if they would *prefer* not to be exposed to be smoke they typically all answered 'yes', just most didn't feel they had the right to not be so exposed (so would often 'suffer in silence'). Now times they are a changing and all sorts of people and groups are having their voice heard and the balance of rights set returned.
You intrigue me. You *can* make a decision to not receive Christmas cards, but *cannot* make a decision when it is life changing. The one constant, is the sheer quantity of blather you generate. FWIW, I thought Bob Eager's "Wowstick" was a tongue-in-cheek poke at you. You know, like the Ugly Stick.
The irony of all this is tat T i m is actually pretty cheerful most of the time. What I don't do though is just fall into line with everything everyone else does, just because THEY do and (possibly) enjoy it.
Like, if we are invited anywhere, one or either of us may want / not want to go and so it's up to the other party to decide if they will still go because of 'other things'. Like, the Mrs isn't particularly interested in car racing and because of her bad back, can't stand for any length of time (she's ok if she's walking / moving though).
So when we went to take daughters friend on his Supercar experience at Brands, she preferred to stay at home. When I did my Rally experience she came with us because it was me doing it. If I did that same experience again I wouldn't *expect* her to want to go to that (unless we made more of a day of it ad had a meal out or summat).
So what some here appear to see as me not being happy / cheerful is simply me not doing what many of them do when they would rather not have to.
Like, I know that 'most people' I know would rather have my assistance than not but get an Xmyth card from me. Real friends / close family really don't need such gestures to knew how they stand with each other.
If you are in a situation when not sending someone an Xmyth card would be 'burning bridges' (your words) I agree you might be the one who could do with some cheering up! ;-)
Cheers, T i m
p.s. Seriously, many people suffer with all sorts of stress over this 'Festive period' and for no reason other than feeling the obligation to comply with what has become a commercial ritual. I am fortunate that my Wife and I are strong enough to see though all of it and agree up front with the people we see regularly that we *don't* do any of it. Therefore we can be reassured that (mostly) we won't be made to feel bad when being presented with an Xmyth present (or card) when we previously agreed than none would be offered. There is nothing Xmyth about taking them a bottle of wine or treating them to a meal and them doing the same to us the next time we meet.
Agreed, it's 'a way' but aren't there better ways?
Many, especially the postage.
But to many they are (John even mentioned the thought of 'burning bridges' because of a card related gesture). How many (men typically) here (if they were honest or didn't have 'staff' to do it for them <g>), really wouldn't bother to send many of or if not most / all the Xmyth cards, if they had the bottle to? Do they really actually *care* if they find out that some distant cousin (they may have never met) is still alive or not? I'm not saying they would not care, just that if they actually cared they might make the effort to call, write or actually go and see them once in a while?
How many here have been thanked for the card or present when we don't have a f'ing clue what was on / in the car or what preset we sent? How much feeling did *we* put into that gesture ... or isn't it all just a pointless ritual (if you aren't of that religion etc)?
Take 10 of your best family / friends. What if in this years cards you add the note saying that for all sorts of reasons (that you can mention if you want) you have decided to not send any more cards but would donate money to charity instead? How many of them do you think would never want to see you again because of that ... and if they did, what sort of friends / family were they in the first place?
I think it's just the same as being young and having the balls *not* to wear the current fashion or do what *everyone else is doing* but following your own personal path. I'm not saying go out of your way to be different, just not doing what they do if it isn't what you want to do.
I'm pretty sure that 'many people' really don't put much / any thought into the whole thing (of cards) and so millions of trees get cut down, many of them for no actually appreciated reason.
But there is still time ... we have highlighted the desire (need?) to move away from single use plastics and so avoiding plasticised wrapping paper and buying a decent plastic Xmyth tree and keeping it for enough years to offset the increased carbon footprint.
And if you are a grown up and not entertained by having a tree *in the house* (wtf?) you can go even further by not having any tree (in the house) in the first place! ;-)
Well no. I can make a request not to be sent them, I have little control over receiving them (other than rejecting them thereafter).
Like the unknown that is Brexit till the deal is known you mean? Yes, pretty obvious why huh (even to a left brainer!).
Aww, thanks for following. ;-)
Do you. What's this, a left brainer having a go at 'imagination' (and getting it wrong).
Yes, I know the term so don't need the definition thanks.
Thanks for playing though and please continue to do so. You have come up with some good and useful replies in the past but typically only when the question involves the skills of a left brainer, like referencing black and white facts etc. ;-)
Reading around, some of the reviews seem to reflect my fears re doing up small / fine screws without the feel and control of a manual screwdriver (if the point is using it as an electric driver).
Also, watching the video reviews I'm not sure it would remove say a long laptop screw any faster than doing so by hand?
Once I have broken the holding torque of such screws I can generally spin the screw out (or in, once the threads had engaged) pretty quickly.
And then you have the issue of working down deep holes and the supplied bits possibly not being long enough?
I note you can buy additional bits that can be stored in a fancy pop-up pot (that I like) but then that's two things you need to keep together.
Then it looks like it can roll and so roll off your bench or roll under something?
The LED's only come on when you press the button and so only after you have found / engaged the head or you do so with the driver already spinning?
As mentioned elsewhere, I would live to give one a go and might be more inclined pay 13 quid for one from Bangood than more from Amazon etc.
I could make a good gift for the right person but I'd like to see all the bits in the same case as the driver (as we know you would either have to find a case for everything yourself or risk losing some of the bits).
I find there is a reduced chance of losing a bit if they each have a 'place' in the storage box.
FWIW, apart from my original Bosch electric screwdriver that I happened to use quite a bit at the time, I've really only ever used / needed the cordless drill as a driver now and then. Most other electric screwdrivers end up getting separated from their chargers or case / bits and / or are flat (or run out in use) when I actually might have a use for them.
It will be interesting to hear your review when you get yours. ;-)
Numbers don't necessarily reflect something's appeal and nor do numbers make something right (like all those who smoked in the day).
You would have to a right brainer to understand why.
Really? You send or are party to sending all cards and gifts from you and the other half (assuming you are part of a couple)? You think everyone here (even) would be so familiar?
Quite. Glad you follow that bit at least. ;-)
Quite (well done). So, you send / do Xmyth stuff because you are a practicing Christian?
It's the same with the Father Xmas story (lie) we have to feed to the kids for fear of 'our kid' spoiling the *lie* for all the other kids, also being deceived and lied to by their parents for the same (cyclic) reason.
Really? So you would have thought of sending bits of folded card to people on your own, Xmyth of other events?
Quite ... but to not be dragged into it you have to have very good and non judgemental friends and family or the courage of your own convictions.
Many (younger) people today are petrified of not 'fitting in' and many people will get themselves into debt to ensure they do fit in (if not for themselves, for their kids).
That also includes doing things the way everone else does them. This is because it often gives such people some comfort (from conforming) and avoids complicated discussions that some may simply not be able to comprehend (as seen here). Or they may comprehend (I appreciate you don't want a card) but simply can't break away from (but here is one because my wife did it and here it is anyway).
Now, ITRW, this card thing doesn't take up much of my thought or time because *most people* have now got the message (and the vast majority did from the first request). Feck, it makes it easier for them not having to physically buy, write and post me a card so who / why wouldn't they prefer that? If they just buy a box of cards and plough though them off the Xmas card list (sending the cheap / sh1tty ones to the people you like least), how much real feeling / care goes into that?
My point is the test of a real / good friend or family member is are they there when you need them, not that they sent an Xmyth card but were 'busy' when I was in need of help. I'm not suggesting people can't be / do both, just that I don't need to have trees wasted in my name, especially when I (personally) don't get any 'joy' from the gesture (and never have).
In message snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, T i m snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk> writes
Au contraire, T I M. This argument about cards takes place here every Christmas. I bet you spend far more time arguing about sending or not sending cards every year than the rest of us do just writing and posting them :-)
yea that sounds like tim , he's just rerun after rerun , he can't buy the stamps for cards , he's an unemployed live at mom's , he even lectured me on what he can do , in the privacy of his own room , not his house , not his apartment , his own room , wants some info
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Best time I feel. Whilst it's in peoples minds in the hope that I might just make a difference?
See, when they first started using cards in China and Egypt there was no Facebook, email, the telephone or Facetme. Nor was it so easy to travel even 100 miles.
Arguing about? 1) It takes two to argue and 2) I wouldn't have even mentioned it if I hadn't been sent a card by someone I had specifically requested didn't and 3) didn't think that these days (with what we know of squandering resources, the lack of true Christian beliefs and how trivial the whole formal Xmyth thing is now to most people) we haven't already mostly dropped them for other ways.
Hey, everone to their own (but I bet I don't). ;-)
And that doesn't help the issue of all the trees consumed (many for no 'good reason') does it? If you must send a card, why couldn't it be reusable?
Reduce, reuse, recycle. It's not the single card you might send me that's the issue, it's the ~60M x 20 (cards) everone sends each other just in England that is (along with the cost of and disposal of discarded Xmyth trees by the local councils).
Serious questions.
1) How many Xmyth cards do you (and the Mrs etc) typically get each year?
2) What percentage of them are from people you are likely to see very regularly (like at work the day you break for Xmyth, if you were still working)?
3) What percentage (typically) give you 'joy' (and why / how do they)?
4) What percentage do you actually know without confirming.
5) What percentage are from people you are likely to have sent cards to previously?
6) What percentage might be from people you hadn't had any other contact with over the previous year (and why not)?
7) What percentage would be (only) in an electronic form (email, eCard, IM etc)?
8) (This one might take some real honesty). Is there any value to you having all the cards on display (assuming you were to etc)?
I ask because I know it was to my Mum and Dad and I had the job of putting up all the strings for them to hang them on and they liked knowing that (say) 150 people had sent them a card?
9) When sending xmyth cards (as a couple and assuming you are a 'man' here) ... do you get / write / post / deliver them or are you only involved in say the (local) delivery bit?
10) Who chooses which person get's which card and is there a range?
These are genuine questions for an enquiring mind and so anyone can add their (genuine) replies.
Cheers, T i m
p.s. If you need any question explaining, you probably might not bother trying to answer any of them. ;-)
If you are older than 3 you start sentences with a capital letter and the punctuation is attached to the last letter.
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Given I don't send cards I'm unlikely to *need* to buy stamps for them eh? I do have stamps here though for the odd thing I still need to send by snail mail or don't buy postage for online.
Never been 'an unemployed' (what?) or claimed any benefits. People in glass houses though ...
Not since I bought my own house at 21.
WTF are you on but whatever it is, it seems to be too strong for you. ;-(
7 so far. But I also get some gifts which don't come with cards :-)
About half
most, because it's nice to be remembered
If you mean who I know they're from, all of them if they're to me.
all
about 1/3rd.
sent one by email this year!
it's nice and christmassy, and helps convince myself I have a social life.
Design the card, order the cards from the printer, write the cards, post the cards, deliver the cards, ... but I am single.
I do, and subject to availability everyone gets the same from one or two designs. A few people will get one of a previous year's spare cards. People I don't like much will get one from the last Woolworth's jumbo box. I can see me dropping to email cards only for the people who aren't local, because of the postage costs.
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