another wummin tries to get me...

[Mark]

[Steve Walker]

But they have their own rules - particularly on maximum speed and electric assistance only (not able to use electric drive without pedalling). Stupid rules in many ways. If pedal cyclists can exceed the maximum speed of an electrically assisted bike for an extended period, why not allow non-licensed electric bikes to go that fast? Why insist on them having to be pedalled and not allowing full electric drive, which might encourage more people to use them for the daily commute?

SteveW

[bert]

My first car. 998 cc. saw one at Mallory Park once with a 4 litre Buicke engine in it. Went like a rocket for about 4 laps - then blew up.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Provided they meet strict regs.

Ones I've seen recently - looking just the same - are capable of exceeding

30 mph on the flat.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Whilst a push bike can go quite fast with a fit cyclist, as regards commuting, not for all that distance. The speed a powered vehicle can go at isn't limited by the skill and energy of the rider.

I've no objection at all to any vehicle using the roads. But traffic laws must apply to all - otherwise you have ananchy. And since bikes are smaller, more chance of the riders getting seriously injured in an accident, which is so often their fault.

You can sort of understand a cyclist not wanting to stop and taking the shortest way to anywhere due to the physical effort involved. This simply doesn't apply with a powered vehicle.

[Dave Plowman (News]

Likely a Rover V8 version of that Buick engine. And you have to try very hard to blow one up.

[dennis]

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It is if they are legal.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Well, that's the point. Most of these electric two wheel vehicles aren't being used legally. They simply don't conform to the regs for public road use. As usual technology is ahead of the legislators.

[dennis]

No it isn't its just that the laws aren't being enforced.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Explain just how you would enforce them. Most traffic law enforcement these days is done with numberplate recognition cameras and postal fines. The simply ain't enough police to deal with 'ordinary' crime let alone something like this.

[bert]

In article [e-mail]>, "Dave Plowman (News)" [e-mail]> writes

In the UK we have always policed by consent. This is now breaking down and given we have primary school teachers encouraging 5 year olds to paint Extinction rebellion posters it will only get worse.

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

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