Whirlpool range rant

Transmissions should not go out at 130,000 miles. Especially when the company had known for several years those types of transmissions are not very good. The car was not even old enough to be paid for, just a lot of miles for the age.

Sorry to belabour the armchair diagnosis - is it safe to assume that the oven worked OK for the first year when under warranty ? In the same location .. plugged into the same receptacle .. if so - did anything change - on the power supply ? - : breaker panel ; breaker ; receptacle ; kitchen reno ; range cord ; other home reno that may have affected the supply wiring .. Did the troubles begin after a self-clean cycle ?

I once had an electric dryer that worked fine for at least a year after a home relocation - when it stopped reaching proper temp. I found that 1 wire was loose and slightly burnt in the wiring terminal block of the dryer - heat fatigue ? dunno. It gave no symptoms - no burning insulation smell ; no breakers tripping ; but I'm glad I found it ! John T.

It worked fine for two years. Nothing in house was changed.

I just saw a Scotty Kilmer video this afternoon mentioning the crappy Nissan JATCO cvt transmissions. They were treating people poorly even under the extended warranty.

I had head gasket problem with my Subaru several years ago that was 3 years out of warranty. It was a design problem. Subaru remitted a third of the repair cost. My son had the same problem and got money from Subaru even though there was no extended warranty. That is what a good company should do to maintain its customer base.

I was wondering if it was purchased from a "big box" retailer ? who do not do any servicing - they tend to rely on the manufacturer's " approved service representatives " .. ... who can be any local-yokel who took the seminar ? .. the guy with the plain white van ..

I try to buy major appliances from local businesses - often they will deliver and set-up and they have local reliable service people - the price tag is only slightly higher than the big-city box stores. John T.

Ask your local tranny shop how many miles are on the ones they repair. Off the top of my head I know of a half dozen, including two of my own, that failed in less than 75000 miles. Do you know of a car company that offers a warranty for 130,000 miles?

Do you remember when the typical powertrain warranty was 36,000 miles? Not long ago. Chevy is still only 60,000.

Mechanical things wear out and break. Sure, it sucks when it happens to you but he is well past warranty of any car maker. Probably should have traded it at 115,000 miles knowing there was risk.

Just spit balling here...

Undersized wiring, continuously overheating the breaker to the point of weakening the thermal bimetallic strip so it trips now, even though it was fine for the past 2 years.

What did he electrician do besides test the breaker by turning on the stove?

Did he check the connection at the breaker?

Did he check the connection at the neutral bar?

Did he measure the current draw?

Did he suggest changing the breaker?

Breakers do go bad...

I call BS. In almost 50 years of driving, I've had 1 count 'em 1 .. transmission wear out or fail. It was a Taurus wagon with well over 300. k km and the previous owner had pulled a small boat - we pulled a family of 5 loaded with a canoe and camping gear. The transmission wore-out when the car was worn out & scrap. Warranty - schwarmmanty .. John T.

Your one time experience is not evidence of anything. I've been driving

As I said, I know other that had failures much earlier. A Dodge, Infinity, Volkswagen. Can happen to any of the as they are complex equipment with many parts There is something keeping those transmission shops in business.

Electric ranges generally last 15 to 20 years but Frank is having problems at 2 years. You've been here long enough to see failures can occur at any time. If past the warranty, you are SOL.

Life sucks some days. Not a car on the road that lasts forever and is totally covered by warranty for life.

Have your electrician install a "high magnetic trip" breaker ?

When does it trip? Does it have a halogen element? Is it a convection oven?

Maybe next time he won't buy a Nissan - - - I would never have bought the first one.

I have had a few transmission problems in my 53 years of driving ols cars. The differential in my 88 New Yorker got noisy - it is part of the FWD "transaxle" - a good used one with low miles solved that

Many transmission shops won't "repair" a transmission - it's a full rebuild, an exchange unit, or nothing.

You will also notice MOST transmission shops now also do "general repairs" and "routine service" to keep the doors open, and there are WAY lesss than half as many of them as there used to be.

You have lots of knowledge about cars, my son did not. About a year after he got the transmission repaired at about $ 4000 he traded for a Toyota. That is the only brand I have bought in about 30 years. The mass air flow sensor was the only thing I have had to do that was not a wear part like brakes and wipers. Everything else was standard service like oil changes and that timing belt.

With many cars having a standard finance of 7 years, the warranty should be at least 100,000 miles on parts that are not normal wear parts.

I would also consider the circuit wiring a possible suspect, until the fault is found.

What was the fault code and what does it translate to?

I reset it and

The control board seems to be unlikely to me. If something on it was shorting to the tune of 50A, you would see evidence of fireworks, the board would just blow up and stop working all together, etc.

How frequently does this happen otherwise? If it would not trip while he was there, but usually trips easily, that might suggest that something he did affected it. Like maybe the range was not pushed back against the wall? Did the electrician open the receptacle box and take a look at what's going on there?

We bought local from a dealer that has his own shop and service people. But now he charges $150 just to come out. If/when we get a new range we are considering going big box and buying extra warranty.

I hate to even suggest this, but are you sure nothing else is attached to this line? The bizarre behavior is hard to explain based upon what has been replaced and when it happens. People sometimes tap into existing lines rather than run new ones. Also, I would read the current draw of the line to see if it exceeds the breaker rating. You could be blaming the stove when it is not the problem.

The odds say you'd be better off skipping the high cost/gotcha' coverage extra warranty. Instead, put the premium amount you didn't spend in a cookie jar on the top shelf of the cabinet over the appliance. When the appliance breaks, you'll probably have enough in the jar to pay for the repair.

If it never breaks, put the money towards the new one when the missus decides she needs one. If you're single, treat yourself to a new shotgun ;-)

Nothing else should be on this line. Two breakers for range. The electricians that came out appeared thorough and were here over a half hour. There were two of them and cost was only $115 which was come out cost whereas repairman cost was $150 to just come out. Last time he was here and replaced electrical panel on range without solving problem he told my wife he could keep working but it might cost $800 without solving problem. Pretty disgusting. Unless dealer pulls a rabbit out of his hat they are history. Wife has sent letters to dealer and Whirlpool about this mess. She has already spent hours on the phone.