No to mention the health and legal consequences of improper use and disposal of the septic tank content.
What kind of water pump has a garden hose input up to about 2" pool hose? Featured
Aug 15, 2024
Last reply: 1 year ago
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W Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:14:40 GMT, Scott Lurndal napisal:
People don't ever fertilize their lawns?
Anyway, I think it might be easy to retrofit the graywater pump.
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If that works, I get a 1-1/2 inch NPT on both the input & output. Then alls I need to do is run it through a standard water filter.
Do you think a standard water filter would filter out pool debris?
W Tue, 20 Aug 2024 01:07:08 -0600, bud-- napisal:
There's always a suction line at every pool simply because the main drain has to have suction and/or the skimmers (in most pools) need suction too.
In my pool, the skimmers have no suction to speak of, but the main drain does have suction like you can't believe - but priming it is a pain.
If you let the main-drain pool pump ever run dry, you ruin it.
It's just not worth the PITA to fill the 1-1/2 inch pool hose with water and to connect & disconnect without ever letting the main pump go dry.
My current plan is to take the bottom of the broken harbor freight pump and attach it by the screws to the new Lanchez graywater pump.
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If I block off (somehow) all the holes other than the 1-1/2 inch threaded input, then it would likely provide the suction that I would need.
I would throw that contraption into the pool with the output and input connected to 1-1/2 inch pool hoses and that gives the suction that I need.
I just throw this contraption into the water - as it's a submersible pump.
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Not really. People who have pools usually already have a vacuum port. I need to create that vacuum port.
The way I'll do that is to get a 120VAC pump that has 1-1/2 inch NPT threads on both the input and output. But then I need to filter it.
Do you think I could hook 1-1/2 inch NPT into a standard water filter?
Why do you think septic tanks are required in the first place?
W Tue, 20 Aug 2024 18:09:56 GMT, Scott Lurndal napisal:
Why do you think home septic systems leach directly into the ground?
Anyway, your abnormal fear of fertilizer notwithstanding, I think it might be easy to retrofit the graywater pump by connecting parts of two pumps.
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If that works, I get a 1-1/2 inch NPT on both the input & output. Then alls I need to do is run it through a standard water filter.
Do you think a standard water filter would filter out pool debris?
The septic tank solids stay in the tank until pumped. Only the effluent is leached (and in many places, leach fields are prohibited due to poor percolation). The effluent (the liquid that escapes the tank) is partially treated (or clarified) by bacteria in the tank and never reaches the surface.
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Your ignorance notwithstanding, spraying effluent and sludge on the surface is a good way to spread disease, and is illegal in most US jurisdictions.
" standard water filter " .. ? post a link please. I suspect that I'm not the only one wondering what it is. ps : it might not matter, soon - it will be pool-closing-time ! Be sure to let us all know how it turns out - especially the connecting parts of 2 pumps together. John T.
If it is the proper standard water filter. Probably something at least the size of your pool filter.
What does your project propose to do with the water after pumping it out. Are you just trying to screen out big objects, or make pure water from it?
It seems to me that you are just duplicating the pool pump/filter you already have.
What the hell is a "standard water filter"?
A standard pool or spa filter, yes. An under sink filter for your tea water heater, no.
W Tue, 20 Aug 2024 21:25:02 -0700, Bob F napisal:
For just vacuuming, you don't need the pool filter. If you did, none of those expensive Polaris robotic pool vacuums would ever be sold to people.
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The simplest filter is just one of these mesh bags that I use today.
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Today I do the vacuuming using a mesh bag and that works fine, but of course, that's for a pressure venturi vacuum & not a suction vacuum.
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I just want to vacuum up the grit that falls to the floor of the pool.
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People do that all the time, but what they have is a dedicated vacuum line. I don't have a dedicated vacuum line. That's what I'm trying to create.
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Remember, I don't have a pool vacuum like most pools have, so there is no duplication at all. I'm not trying to filter the water. I'm vacuuming the grit off the floor of the pool. Pools with vacuum lines do it all the time.
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The filter simply needs to filter as well as any vacuum bag filters such as these Polaris pool vacuum bags which apparently filter the water just fine.
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Please note I've mostly concentrated on the pump component of the manual pool vacuum so this is the first time I'm actually looking for filters.
If you have ideas for good 1-1/2 inch NPT water filters, I'm interested.
W Tue, 20 Aug 2024 19:01:28 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@ccanoemail.com napisal:
This is the FIRST TIME I'm even thinking about actual components for the water filter, so please help give me ideas as this is all new to me.
With that in mind, I have to first say I haven't thought much about getting a robust filter yet as filtering is the last component of the vacuum mix where the pump is the first component and where a simple thin-mesh bag works fine with the garden-hose venturi hand-held filters.
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The mesh bag is needed for venturi hand vacuums because there is no suction flow when you use the pressure-type portable vacuum attachments on a pole.
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When I begin to think of how I would put a suction filter into the loop, a quick search shows everyone with above-ground pools already does that.
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That's the whole pump and filter - where I would just need the filter part.
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To be clear, I am looking for ideas, since this is the first time I'm even looking at the filtering part, given a mesh bag is working at the moment (but that's for the push venturi type vacuums).
For a powerful suction vacuum, I may need a water filter with threads.
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W Tue, 20 Aug 2024 22:57:13 GMT, Scott Lurndal napisal:
I understand your unnaturally abnormal fear of poop which many people have, as it's a reaction from people who know nothing about fertilizing soil.
Most people are like you are, where they think food comes out of bags and boxes where growing those boxes of food has nothing to do with soil.
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Waste is Safe for Growing Vegetables, Researchers Say
As farmers in Europe and across the world grapple with increases in the cost of fertilizers, researchers suggest a solution may be closer to home in what people flush down the toilet.
A peer-reviewed paper by scientists in Europe published Monday in the journal Frontiers in Environmental Science found that fertilizer made from human feces and urine is safe to use, and that only extremely tiny quantities of chemicals from medicines or drugs, for example, would get into the food.
And this is food that is sold to the public. Not fertilizing your lawn. Plenty of science combats your strangely unnatural fear of soil nutrients.
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Anyway, your unnatural fear of soil notwithstanding, I think it might be easy to retrofit the graywater pump by connecting parts of two pumps.
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If that works, I get a 1-1/2 inch NPT on both the input & output. Then alls I need to do is run it through a standard water filter.
Do you think a standard water filter would filter out pool debris?
W Tue, 20 Aug 2024 21:38:12 -0700, Bob F napisal:
I have to first say outright that I haven't even thought about the filter yet as I've focused first on a 1-1/2 inch NPT pump to create the vacuum.
Looking up, for the first time, the answer to your question, it seems that people with above-ground pools either use a dedicated pump & filter.
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Or they seem to be using just a vacuum head that runs off a pump & filter.
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Having never used those above-ground pool filter pumps, I wonder if there is enough suction on them to run a vacuum head that goes onto a long pole?
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Does that work?
Probably op needs something more like this $2,594.41 portable vacuum setup.
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I grew up on a farm.
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W Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:42:51 GMT, Scott Lurndal napisal:
I suspect that's not true based on your belief that fertilized soil isn't involved in growing foodstuffs that you only see in a box, a can or a jar.
Anyway, there are people who make their own portable pumps where I just need to find a way to do it as inexpensively & as intelligently as I can.
Here a pool-service tech built his own vacuum pump as I want to be doing.
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Here that same guy reviews a bunch of expensive purpose-built portables.
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Here's the one that particular pool tech recommends but it's expensive.
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What's nice is he supplies the specs that work for his pool vacuuming.
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All those are expensive, but what they tell me are the specs I need for (1) Pump horsepower & gallons per hour (2) Filter requirements (3) Vacuum attachment & hoses
You are projecting. My position is that spreading untreated human waste leads to disease and is prohibited by most US jurisdictions.
That has nothing to do with fertilizer.
Even on the farm, we never used human waste as fertilizer. Animal waste, yes. Human waste, which is a known disease vector, never.
i have to move my outhouse every three years
Ah, spring time! Flowers blooming, birds singing, and manure spreaders out in the fields.
That's a drinking water filter with 1 inch connections. .. and the unit plus filters will seriously cut into your $ 100. $ 150. max. budget. John T.
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