My pool drain is 9 feet underwater - and - I think it's clogged because the
pump runs dry every time I switch from both the spa & pool or just the spa,
to the pool only.
The drain cover has screws on top - but - it's 9 feet under (due to the
nature of the self-cleaning pool).
I long lost (20 years ago) my PADI scuba diving certification card (I
wonder if we can get a new one sent?) and I don't have tanks (although I
could buy them on Craigslist) and a regulator ...
So, I wonder, sans scuba equipment, how do you guy normally service your
deep drains to see what's clogging them up?
free dive repeatedly
drain the pool
sell the place and move to the city
btw....in nearly 35 years, never experienced a block main drain in any
pools I was responsible for.
They're pretty hard to block permanently with the types of debris
typically seen in a pool.
Can you run water from the garden hose from the filter area by
plumbing the hose into the system?
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:38:01 -0700 (PDT), DD_BobK wrote:
This type of filter isn't designed to be backwashed (it's a cartridge
filter) but it does have a drain valve.
I will try to shove a hose into the drain valve (about 1.5 inch diameter
pipe abover the filter pump) and see if that works - but - it's a good 90
feet away from the pool main drain ... so ... I'm not sure how that would
But, it's a good idea to try!
consider a temporary (& reversible) re-plumbing effort to ALLOW you
to PRESSURIZE the pipe TO the main drain line.
I'm not suggesting shoving the hose down the pipe, let the pressurized
water do the work.
DO NOT USE COMPRESSED AIR UNLESS YOU HAVE COPPER PIPING.
Think outside the box (but not on the far side of the moon).
Start looking for a realtor.
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:03:00 -0700 (PDT), Evan wrote:
Thanks for the advice. It's my fault for not mentioning that draining the
pool isn't feasible.
If you look at some of my other threads, the well only pumps about 400
gallons of water a day. The pool is 38K gallons. That would take almost 100
days to fill the pool again - and that's assuming no other water goes
anywhere but to the pool. Can't be done.
The only way to refill a drained pool out here is to truck the water in.
So, a used set of scuba tanks costs far far far less than refilling the
It's my fault for not mentioning that draining the pool doesn't appear to
be an option (unless I can rent 38K gallon storage tanks for a few weeks).
So would RENTING a set so you wouldn't have them cluttering up your
So would HIRING someone with the proper equipment to dive on the
So would HIRING a proper pool maintenance/repair firm to diagnose and
fix the problem without ever getting wet, instead of turning this
relatively simple job into the frickin' Poseidon Adventure...
Evan for President
You sound like a noob... You often have to purchase water to fill a
at a premium rate and have it trucked in via a tanker truck...
Maybe you should try to hold your breath while you check the pool
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT), Evan wrote:
I did that already. Many times.
I go down and can hold my breath for a couple of minutes (I have sleep
apnea so it's rather easy to hold my breath).
The problem is that it takes dozens of dives to remove the cover and
I was looking for a simpler way.
One poster suggested using a garden hose on the filtration pump basket
inlet (shoving water backward through the 90 feet of pipe to the other end
of the pool). That might work.
Another idea is to shove that garden-hose drain thing into the topside
debris cannister on the pool deck, just above the main drain. That may work
also to blow the clog backward (I'd likely remove the drain cover for that
to let the clog come out).
A third option is to buy or rent tanks for a few weeks and just go down,
with weights, and spend the twenty or thirty minutes down there to figure
out what is going on.
But, going down a dozen to three dozen times holding my breath seems like
the hardest thing of all ... doesn't it?
Take a largish bucket and cut a window in it. Bolt (and seal) a flexible
plexiglass pane to the window. Install an air nozzle to the top. Add
sufficient weights and connect your new diving bell to an air compressor.
When I was a lad, we did this to scrub the pool's wall at the Boy's Club.
There was no shortage of volunteers to take a turn with a stiff brush, very
few of which drowned.
Clearly you don't know enough about pools or water to really be
one on your own without proper supervision...
Hire a company to take care of it for you...
If the drain line in the bottom of the pool has become compromised and
you really really need for it to be fixed because of some sort of
defect being in play here, then the pool will have to be drained for
happen... They aren't going to tunnel in from a shaft dug next to the
to do repairs...
You are thinking on consumer grade time tables... A gasoline operated
pump would have that 38,000 gallon pool empty in a little more than an
hour or two...
With a 50,000 gallon tanker truck full of water, the pool will be
fast as the pump in the tank truck can pump the water out of the hose,
not 100 days...
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:52:49 -0700 (PDT), Evan wrote:
I'm sorry again for not being clear. I never said I knew anything about
pools. I never owned a pool before. In fact, I never even wanted a pool. I
simply bought a house at forclosure that had a pool filled with mud (and
For about $400, a team cleaned it out and left. Then I filled it and now
the drain isn't working right.
Of course I can hire someone to fix it but I don't have a job and the money
is tight (big mortgage and huuuuuge taxes). The house was practically free
but the maintenance is what is difficult.
So, the only way I can keep the house is to do all my own maintenance (I've
already learned how to do roofing tiles, how to cut down large oak trees,
how to clean the three heater blowers, how to plug the solar heater, etc.).
I thought that's what this newsgroup is all about.
Sorry for misleading you. I repeat, I don't know anything about pools. But,
I can learn just as I learned how to fix my car which has never been to a
mechanic and which is now 15 years old.
It just takes time (which is the one thing I have plenty of).
Thanks for understanding and helping out.
If you go in the water to work on the drain while the pump is running, use
You can become trapped by the suction, people have been killed this way....
Have buddy there to look out for you and shut down the pump if you get
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