"[PLAINFIELD, Penn] Walt Neidlinger spent years trying to keep a
Wal-Mart-anchored shopping complex from being built...
"The traffic would have been suffocating for their little community,
neighbors argued, so when the massive retailer and its partners packed up
their plans and left ... Neidlinger was ecstatic. He figured he'd wait for
the next plan to come along and remembers thinking, 'What could be worse
"Over the past year, Neidlinger says, he's gotten an answer: RPM
Recycling -- the metal-shredding plant on the same land -- causes daily
noise that sounds like a freight train rumbling down the street, and
frequent explosions that shake his walls."
Proving yet again: Be careful. You might get what you're asking for.
It's a lead pipe cinch that Walmart would NOT have permitted a recycling
plant to be built next door.
All those jobs, all that tax base - gone. (Never was.) Too bad.
Good point. The recycling plant has, what, fifty workers compared to 200 for
Walmart. And the recycling plant generates zero sales tax dollars for the
city. Moreover, the property tax has to go down in the neighborhood due to
the collapse in home value by being next to a noise maker.
But Walmart's not there. To some, it's an even trade.
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:58:16 -0700, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to
I'm no fan of walmart, but that doesn't make sense.
I've been to Walmart, and plenty of their floorspace is NOT groceries.
70 or 80 percent, maybe more.
Whatever groceries people buy at walmart, if there were no walmart,
they'd buy it somewhere else. The total amount of groceries sold
doesn't vary that much in an area, because everyone eats.
We have a Super Wal-Mart about 1 mile away. Half the building seems to be
groceries. They have a whole bank of gas pumps, maybe 10 or 12 of them.
The gas is the cheapest around here. I used to go there, but no more. The
customers are too trashy. If i need something from Wal-Mart then i order
online. I'll go there for gas, but only when it's not too busy, which is
almost all the time.
I can't afford to think "global ecomony" or even "local economy" when I
need to make every single penny count. Wal-Mart generally has the best
prices on almost anything I need to buy. I really can't afford to not shop
there. If I find good specials at other stores, then I go to those stores,
but inevitably I end up at Wal-Mart for a lot of my shopping.
I agree with you about the typical customers. I make it a point to shop at
times where there is a minimum number of shoppers, either extremely early
or extremely late.
I spoke to a friend who is the CEO of a bicycle manufacturer about his
dealings with Wal-Mart. He said he's happy to sell to them, but only on
condition that his company's name does not appear on the product, because
of what he's forced to do in order to meet their pricing policies.
Example: fewer spokes in the wheels, vinyl instead of leather saddles,
plastic where metal should be used, unsmoothed welds, no primer, less paint,
etc. You only get what you pay for. A great majority of Wal-Mart merchandise
is built to a price point, rather than a quality/feature level.
On Tue 19 Aug 2008 12:53:45a, Don Klipstein told us...
We're very careful shoppers, and not unaware of many of WM's practices. We
got burned one time which was some time ago, and have been very aware of
checking weight, count, ingredients, parts, etc. I'm not saying they
couldn't slip something by us, but it would be unlikely.
Americans are very uninformed on stuff that matters. Sure we know who
won the world series and who hit the most home runs for the season or
who made the most touchdowns or baskets. Who had the most traveling
penalties, but many still think Iraq attacked us on 911. Many can't even
point out their own state on a map. That's how we got GW Bush for 8
years and why we have Obama as Dem candidate and McCain as Rep candidate.
How can you be expected to know or even care that Wal Mart and it's ilk
uses virtual slave labor and has their suppliers pollute to their hearts
content in the name of profit.
Then they advertise how good corporate citizens they are. Not much has
really changed since the 19th century. Greed and ignorance rules.
Such merchandise is clearly marketed under Walmart's "Great Value"
brand. All merchandise is presented in its original packaging, clearly
marked with all required labels such as content, weight, volume,
Those, too, are clearly marked.
Yet you perpetuate them.
Walmart ran afoul of wage and hour requirements YEARS ago when it was
revealed that SOME workers had worked off the clock. It is unclear
whether the workers were pressured by management to do so.
Today, the biggest rule, by far and away, is that one does NOT work off
the clock. Management is adamant about it. There are large (bilingual)
signs at each time clock forbidding working unless clocked-in.
Walmart is extremely accommodating with merchandise returns and other
customer concerns. Still, there will always be the customer that is
dissatisfied regardless of any outcome.
Remember, also, there are those that, not too much unlike shoplifters,
will intentionally take advantage of Walmart's liberal customer
My wife was mistreated by a returns Associate as was my son-in-law - the
latter over a mere package of moldy pita bread. Much depends on the
Associate with whom the customer is dealing and how much experience and
training that Associate has had.
That's too bad. It is a great place to work and shop.
Also hardly WM the only one trying to sneak by. I have worked at a
couple hospitals over the years where most of the nurses got a nice
"bonus" because we were expected to sign out on time yet also get our
Now I'm totally confused. Quotes around bonus like it doesn't mean
bonus but then what does it mean? You signed out on time, did some
of your work after signing out, and then got extra money? Or extra
work? You're too subtle for me.
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