Very few solar panels on new houses (2025 Update)

Jun 06, 2019 Last reply: 8 months ago 113 Replies

Same is true of the installation manuals for electric receptacles, light fixtures, dishwashers, ovens, garbage disposals, water heaters, furnaces..... Yet it's perfectly legal here in most parts of the US for a homeowner to install those themselves.

Vehicle factory workshop

I've seen both factory manuals and aftermarket ones, eg Chiltons, Bentley and I don't see a lot of difference. I thought the main purpose of the aftermarket ones was to offer something to the DIYer when the factory ones either may not be available at all to a DIY or the aftermarket ones are a lot cheaper.

Then you have a crooked insurance company and you should go straight to the regulators. You car catches fire in the garage, burns the house down and they can deny the claim because someone unlicensed put in a receptacle in the bathroom?

People have made the claim that work you did without a permit, if it was SHOWN that incompetent work actually CAUSED the fire, would result in the claim being denied. But every time we ask for some examples, no one has been able to produce a single one. I know of only one case where that happened and it was exceptional, with a lot of documented evidence to support it.

And I don't see anyone here suggesting people do anything illegal, ie install a solar system without a permit and required inspections. As a homeowner, most places in the US, you can obtain the permit, DIY and have whatever work you do inspected.

Irrelevant. Compare it with Shetland etc.

Those aren't islands, they're rocks!

I said I was ignorant of stupid folk. This means I don't know much about stupid folk. You read it as I have the ignorance of stupid folk, which means I'm as ignorant as they are. Two totally different things.

Corse you do.

Irrelevant to the size of the island.

Nope, rubbing your nose in yet another fact.

Nope, it's a fact that everyone can see for themselves.

I said nothing of the sort.

Ireland is larger than the island I was born on.

Look at where the aftermarket ones get to the complex bits, like auto trans. They leave them out in general. Also, most aftermarket focus on step by step operation and miss out on detailed system operation explanations which is what I like to read *first*. Need that overview since, as a tradesman for 50+ years, I pretty much know much more than the basics. The *detail*, *accurate specifications* and *system overview* is what I need and manuals like Chilterns don't give me that, especially in these days of incredible electronic complexity in cars.

And that's why he has two heads.

What is "auto trans"? Auto transfer? IDK what kind of eqpt you have down there, but here the home solar eqpt doesn't use a transfer switch, the grid disconnect detection and shutdown are in the inverters.

Also, most aftermarket focus on

I thought we were talking about solar INSTALLATION. What operation? Once it's installed, the installer leaves and there would typically be a user manual that describes how it works. Not unlike a furnace, AC, oven or washing machine.

Need that overview

I agree that a factory auto manual, if one is available, would be better in many cases. It could cover much that isn't covered in a Chiltons. On the other hand, sometimes aftermarket ones have better, more practical procedures that the factory. For example, BMW's manual tells you that to do a CV boot replacement, you have to remove the entire wheel spindle from the vehicle and then do it on the bench. IDK anyone that does it that way and it can be done with a lot less work. Today Youtube videos are an enormous source of practical information, in most cases better than a manual.

Automatic transmission. I was referring to the aftermarket service manuals compared with factory manuals. Same with installation manuals for things electrical - they *assume* a qualified electrician is installing and skip the obvious info an electrician would know.

I wasn't referring to the *user manual*. The installation manual or the repair manual is what I was referring to.

And, for BMW, that is their preferred method - for whatever reason.

I have seen many youtube videos that are plain wrong. Caveat emptor.

The same is true for a light switch, a light fixture, ceiling fan, water heater, garbage disposal, ovens, etc. When you buy a receptacle they don't tell you the codes that apply to the wiring, eg what kind of wire, what gauge, how it has to be fastened, that junctions need to be accessible, where they have to located in a kitchen, how many, etc.

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