The Dark Side

[Naturous]

Diesel formulated on Sunday :

BULLSHIT. You are offensive from the gitgo, and prolly stink as bad. Go take a bath, rim queen.

[Terry Coombs]

I didn't ... building my own and resurrecting old computers is kind of a hobby . I'm actually a retired cabinet maker with a loving wife who indulges me . I can't write code , and never wanted to . I just want to tailor my machines to do the tasks I find important . Looks like the only way now to do that is to go with a Linux based OS , because I'm just not going with Win10 . I may not be able to eliminate my online footprint , but I can damn sure minimize it .

[philo]

The mobo was very inexpensive and I'd had great success using those cheap mobo/cpu combos.

Of course I did not research it well when it said Win10 support but that's OK ...Win10 seems to be working out fine

[philo]

I've been working with computers since 1979 but had a long break between

1982 and 1999,

I am good a hardware problems, pretty good with software problems but am absolutely not a coder.

I've been using Linux part time since the year 2000 and switched to it as my main OS maybe six years ago.

If I am on line, I will not be using Windows

but if I'm scanning slides and printing I use Windows.

The software that come with my scanner works great on Windows

but the Linux support, though it works. is not quite as good

[Diesel]

Well, it wouldn't be the first time BD mis-represented someone or something. He's bad about doing that. I apolgize if I seemed to be insulting you, btw.

:)

Thanks. I'll check this out in more detail later. Nice to see something officially supported for a linux distro on the hardware side. I hope more do this, infact.

Even better.

Ahh..

Er.. what do you mean by for the most part?

Sadly, one of my friends works at a place that recently changed their XP embedded systems out for Windows 7 pro powered ones. Three of the five computers are now experiencing the hung on 'preparing your system please wait...' loop. And, the monkeys in charge keep powering off (as in hard shutdown) the machines when they do this. They might as well reload now and teach the monkeys not to do that, anymore. As these are dedicated machines, Winshit updates shouldn't even be allowed...But, alas, they aren't my clients and have a tendency not to listen anyhow. Par, Par, are you listening? You f***ed up with your new cash registers that aren't really cash registers at all. Windows PC with a touch screen. And to think, I thought lucas's programming and support was awful. Poor bastards.

The drivers you have up and going may have bugs that'll never be fixed and may not be taking full advantage (performance wise) of the hardware they are intended for, either. :(

I'm sorry. As long as you don't mind MS snooping, you're good to go, then.

:) I suspect you already know what I generally think of ebay...

[Diesel]

You're welcome. :)

[Diesel]

ROFL. Hi David. Do you have any technical expertise you'd like to contribute to this thread?

[Diesel]

As well as some older 'newish' ones that somehow, MS is working on a fix for. Praise be to MS, right? :)

[Diesel]

Okay.

Ahh.. There's a work around for this very annoying issue...

Allow it to create an update package for you. Use the results to bring your copy of Windows 7 uptodate, without jumping thru hoops MS style.

Since your windows install is having problems, as long as you have nothing of value on the drive, At this point, I'd proceed to waste it and start over. Once you have Windows itself up and going, load your drivers from the cdrom, and then, use the update disc you created with the aforementioned program to bring your copy of Windows 7 uptodate.

Once you have it up and going, there's other options for more recent drivers, but, you're going to need a usb stick and/or external hard disc to acquire them. Let me know if you still wish to go this route and I'll provide the gory details and the driver collection (they are massive collections, actually; very good for techie support) software programs I can vouch for. I don't want to overwhelm you, so we'll do this one stage at a time. :)

That is, if you still wish to run Windows 7. Once again though, I do advise against doing this as you're only delaying the inevitable.

Please post back your decision and we'll go from there. And, if you run into any problems along the way, I'm a post away. :)

Yep, it matters. You can enter cmos setup and change the boot order via the sata ports, if you ever wanted to do so. So you could have one HD with Windows, and, the other with Linux, and boot either one you liked. :)

Do you intend to have it share it's contents with any other computers local to you? IE: Are you planning to network it?

[Diesel]

Very cool. I know who to ask about cabinet details then. :)

[David B.]

I most certainly did not intentionally misrepresent Philo - he's been one of my Facebook friends for MANY years.

Did you know that because he spent so much time kneeling in front of computers - praying for them to work properly again - he had to have both of his knees replaced some years ago? He made a good recovery.

It's right and proper that you have apologized. Philo is another of life's 'good guys' - you should endeavor to be more like him, Dustin.

[philo]

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As a veteran of the Chicago Poetry Slam scene, Usenet insults are rather tame and it takes quite a bit to elicit an insult. Even the Kaditcha man eventually gave up on trying to insult me.

You do remember him don't you?

BTW: When I mentioned somewhere that my computer experience goes back to

1979, I forgot to mention that that was when I started /repairing/ computers. I was taking post graduate courses at the time and repaired a computer my professor was unable to figure out. I actually started back in 1968 with FORTAN_IV at Milwaukee School of Engineering, so BD was not entirely wrong if he mentioned that I do have some computer knowledge.

It's that auto-update and reboot thing. I had to use Policy Editor to get the machine to do what I wanted and I don't think the average user wants to mess with that. Win7 had a simple and logical update procedure.

I've had essentially zero problems with eBay.

I bought four, 2 gig ram sticks from China @ $2 each

It was clearly stated for AMD only and since the machine I was going to use it in was AMD I figured it was not much of a gamble.

One stick was flaky the rest were fine and still in use.

For $2 I did not even try to get a refund I just threw the stick in the computer parts recycle bin and gave the vendor a neutral rating.

To my surprise they emailed me almost frantically and asked why they only got a neutral rating and begged an opportunity to make things good enough for a positive rating.

I said the $2 was too small of an amount to worry about and I did not need a refund or replacement but they refunded the $2 anyway so what the heck, I changed the rating to positive.

I figured the guy probably would have gotten executed for all I know.

At any rate, I've had not problems to speak of from eBay

and I've sold a few things it would have been impossible to see locally and actually get any money for.

[philo]

Thanks but I wrecked my knees from jogging when I was younger not from doing computer work.

I stopped jogging when I was 40 but the damage was done.

[RonNNN]

Whoosh! That slam went soaring right over you head I guess!

[philo]

No it did not.

I know David and that was not meant as a slam.

[RonNNN]

Yea, right. It's British humour, right?

[David B.]

Exactly! :-)

You should get out more, RonNNN.

Have you EVER traveled outside the USA?

[David B.]

Thanks for not letting me down, Philo! :-)

[Terry Coombs]

Wasted ... I have used wsus before , stumbling around until I got lucky . I shoulda read the instructions sooner ... The comp that had (!) Mint on it now has a fresh copy of Win7 , downloading updates to wsus as I type . I decided the problems inherent in converting my whole shebang to Linux were more than I want to deal with . And yes , this comp will be networked - that's the whole reason I wanted them all running the same OS . Though I have figured out how to get them all (2 Win7's , 2 XP's and 1 Vista) to talk to each other . I think some of my problems come from marginal quality RAM , will soon replace it . Half the stuff I recently bought has failed ... and I didn't buy the cheapest .

[Diesel]

ROFL! Maybe BD should reach out to you via facebook to ensure the stories match up, BEFORE he posts. lol!!