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AAaaaaaannnnnd our Resident Commie chimes in with his erroneous accusations . FWIW , though you will disagree , the inflation cycle was started by a combination of Brandon cutting off energy supplies and The Fed printing massive amounts of money to "stimulate" ie "cause inflation of" the economy . When energy prices - specifically gasoline and diesel fuel - go up , the increased transportation costs are paid by THE CONSUMER . Add in the increased minimum wage which also increases the cost to consumers , and you have the perfect formula for inflation .

I think I'll order more silver ...

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Snag

I had thoght of gold and silver, but just don't see where or how I could put a few hundred thousand worth around the house and feel safe about it being here.

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Ralph Mowery

The stimulus started under Trump so he has a piece of it too. Minimum wage? Ye, should have been increased a long time ago. The fed $7.25 is finally forcing people to protest. We like cheap prices but should not be at the expense of people eating.

Have fun with your stickers. Try not to get caught and arrested for vandalism.

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Ed Pawlowski

The FED creating new money to provide Covid stimulus was well under way during Trump's final year. It didn't start with Biden. Beyond that, the FED has created enormous liquidity going back years that it has not reversed, including during Trump's years in office.

When energy prices - specifically gasoline and diesel

I agree Biden made the oil part worse, occasionally you will hear the libs tell the truth, they want higher oil prices to force people to buy less oil.

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trader_4

In a way I don't think that the Fed should have a minimum wage. It is up to the people to take or not take a job at a certain pay.

If they are going to have a minimum, it needs to be boosted up to a living wage. Maybe a different one for each state. Some states $ 15 is reasonable for some that is not enough to even provide for basic housing.

I don;t know what a fair minimum wage should be in lots of states, but even here in NC $ 7.25 is about $ 3 less than it should be .

When I was growing up my first job was a bag and stock boy at a grocery store. Just part time while in school like several others in the same store. Forgot the minimum wage, thinking $ 1.25 an hour,but we were being paid $ .10 over the minimum. Fast food places were maned by mostly school students. Now there seem to be very few jobs that are maned by school students. Guess that is why I saw a sign the other day at a fast food place showing help wanted up to $ 20 an hour. That is a dollar or two more than many of the local factory jobs.

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Ralph Mowery

As expected from Bob and fellow traveler Ed P.

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invalid unparseable

Low level wage jobs are usually temporary and on the learning curve for workers just starting to work. If you remain at a low level job for life, life is trying to tell you something. Maybe if minimum wage is high enough to be a living wage, there will be no incentive for workers to improve their lot.

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invalid unparseable

What is life telling you Frank?

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Nic

Yeah, that'll work. Here's an idea...

Let's make that "certain pay" be room and board for the worker and his family. No need for any cash payments. The owner umm...errr...I mean the "boss" can supply everything the family needs to live on.

The kids can do jobs that match up with their abilities, increasing their workload as they age.

Sound familiar?

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Marilyn Manson

It's so, so easy for some people to judge others.

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Marilyn Manson

Sounds like the old company store thing. You get free or all most free housing and just enough money to eat left over after a weeks work.

Things seem to run in large cycles. In the 1960's around here you could leave one job and go somewhere else and make the same pay. Then around the middle of 1970 jobs started going out of the country and good jobs became hard to find. Companines could treat the employees any way they wanted to. Now it looks like the companies are finding help hard to find and will have to start treating the employees better and more pay.

As I told my son about 20 years ago if you see some other place you think you will like better, jump ship and go . The companies don't think anything of letting people go or changing things to be more in their favor. That cost me about $ 1000 a month in retirement pay when one company was bought out by anoter and they changed the pension rules before I could retire. It also caused me to work about 2 years longer than I really wanted to. It could have been 5 if I had not been in good health.

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Ralph Mowery

In theory we should not need a minimum. If you look back the past couple of years and especially the past few months, business is realizing they have to pay more to get people. I always set my own minimum and it was far above what the fed or state says.

Also wonder if unions will make some advances in some low wage places. I've always been against them as they would hold me back but they may be needed in places where workers have to piss in a bottle.

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Ed Pawlowski

One question is where to improve to. Go from burger flipper to Amazon warehouse? Where are the good paying factory jobs our parents had? Oh, they are in China for cheap.

Our education system seems to prepare students to go to college for a degree in Interpretive Dance and loads of student debt.

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Ed Pawlowski

Which was just an industrialized version of Tenant Farming (originally, "tenant farmers" were called "Peasants". And they were also villeins) (look it up, it's not a spelling error).

All-in-all not a desirable model when looking at the system from the bottom up.

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Scott Lurndal

dig a hole in the yard

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gfretwell

The Fed started buying US paper to prop up the bonds in the Obama administration, in an unprecedented way and we have been throwing money at the public since then. It is not shocking that when the supply of goods and services declined, inflation went into high gear. They should have slowed the input of new money into the system, not increased it, if inflation was on their mind. We have just created a society that is resistant to any kind of pain. When the crash comes, it is going to be ugly. We can't keep monetizing our debts, increasing the money supply, during times of decreasing productivity and expect to hold on to the value of the US dollar. Some day the world is going to reevaluate the dollar and with our trade imbalance that will be devastating.

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gfretwell

Why should every job provide a living? There are plenty of people who still live with their families or share expenses with room mates. That was how I survived before I made a "living wage" Some jobs simply do not provide that much value to an employer. Raising the minimum wage for unskilled labor only starts making automation look more attractive. The alternative is raising prices and taking your business out of reach of a lot of your customers. When that business fails, your $15 an hour busboy job went with it. I heard someone (Bill Maher?) say the other day, going out to dinner may soon become something only rich people get do. That even included McDonalds. If that happens the "family restaurant" may go the way of Montgomery Ward.

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gfretwell

If you have minimum wage skills you shouldn't be knocking up girls and having a family. I didn't even have any kids with my first wife but we didn't think of getting married until we were financially stable. What happened to responsibility?

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gfretwell

If you started with shit and improved your life, why not?

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gfretwell

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