Should the U.S. pull out of Chicago ?

Dec 28, 2012 143 Replies
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Yes, it was a causative claim:

"Interesting article in (Atlantic?) about the relation of high lead levels in environ. and the crime levels that follow in about 20 years. Not proof, and no proof is claimed, and the author has studied quite a few regions, including NYC, where the statistics for both problems are accurate. Mayor G. got a lot of credit for reducing crime, but it might have been due more to the reduction of lead in gasoline. "

At least 3 others here thought the same thing. A claim that makes no sense, because Chicago has a high crime rate and NYC a low one. You are aware that both cities switched from leaded to unleaded gas at about the same time, are you not?

BTW, have you figured out how that Aprilaire humidifier works? I know any of the 4 of us could install a simple humidifier and get it working. Maybe that's why you're so pissed off and get into so many nasty arguments? You're just mad as hell because you can't install or get working a humidifier from the #1 manufacturer. And you're too arrogant and hot headed to let anyone help you.

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snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

'salright, just proves you're human.

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I think I've figured out why I see "Doug". It's in your email address "doug at milm...". Since the moron won't change his posting nym, maybe you should change your email address. ;-)

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It just proves that people who should be trying to convince us they are mature enough to be trusted carrying guns in public engage in silly, juvenile name-calling behavior that undermines their position. Ironic, isn't it?

To be fair, shame on you Norminn, for name calling. In addition, we've not seen his actual brain so we don't know if it's pin head-sized, pea-sized, walnut-sized, etc. (-:

A majority of criminologists and sociologists attribute the drop in crime rates to a number of causes. Many believe that improvements in both surveillance and forensic technology are the factors most responsible for the decrease in recent years. Video and DNA evidence is hard to refute and repeat offenders who used to walk are now serving jail time. Personally I find those factors far more compelling in explaining the decrease than lead poisoning but I wouldn't discount the lead theory entirely. I just wouldn't expect much intelligent discussion of it to happen here. )-:

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Of course, those who believe that
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or similar sites are reputable and "neutral" sources of crime statistics have already drawn the low card in the "forehead" poker game of personal credibility. There aren't any unbiased studies I know of that can prove the drop of crime has been caused by an increase in gun ownership. Of course, there's John Lott's "work" but he impugned his own ethics by using a sockpuppet to give positive reviews for his book:

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There are some other serious problems with Lott's alleged "research" as well:

Whoops! Faking data and creating fake personalities to review his work pretty much discredits that "research" completely although it doesn't seem to keep gun advocates from repeatedly quoting his results as if they were not just credible, but the gospel straight from God.

-- Bobby G.

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