I didn't see anyone here suggest that you copy the entire article.
I did see at least a couple of us ask a very simple question. A
question that you have yet to answer. From
what you posted, it's suggested there is a link between leaded
gasoline and crime rates. So, inquiring minds want to know, how
is that possible, given that some cities, like NYC, have low crime
rates, while others, like Chicago have high crime rates? Are they
still using unleaded gas in Chicago? Now, if
you've read the article, that should be easy to answer. No posting
of the entire article required.
There is a lot of online "information" that upon even cursory
doesn't make sense. Hence, the above question about NYC and
Chicago and how ANY link to leaded gasoline can be rationally drawn.
Since you read the article..... No, wait, you later said you didn't
read the whole thing...... Whichever it is, since you made the post
suggesting a link between leaded gasoline and crime, yet can't
explain how that's possible given the widely differing crime rates in
Chicago and NYC, I'd suggest maybe you're the one with diminished
You're a typical lib. Bring up some crap that makes no sense, because
it suggests an excuse for criminals that you're so found of.
Yet when someone comes up with the simplest question that goes
to it's credibility, you're totally defenseless and won't even
Doug & T4-
The article is 72 pages...I've only read 1/2, it ain't all that easy
Upon a first of the first half, the argument seems to have merit.
But your questions about NYC vs DC vs Chicago are valid and I have not
gleaned the answer from what I've read.
The aritcle does speak about permanently contaminated soil that
provides high levels of current residents to despite the end to leaded
gas use. Perhaps the means of exposure?
I'll admit, I was skeptical about lead being the culprit
but the lowering of lead use (leaded gas), lowering of level blood
levels & the lower of crime do seem to correlate (with a ~20 year
offset).... causation? thats another question.
Poverty, lead exposure, bad parenting, bad role models and crime can
be all intertwined,
hard to tease out the causation from mere correlation.
Note that the timing of the leaded gas phase out varied from state to
here is a timeline for lead usage
I dont have all the answers but this lead thing appears plausible
Neither the author of the article nor I claimed that lead poisoning was
THE sole cause of crime.....merely a statistical correlation in the rise
and fall of both. OBVIOUSLY, crime rates bear on numerous factors.
But that's not true. OBVIOUSLY. Since crime fell dramatically in NYC, and did
not do so in
Chicago, DC, Detroit, or any number of other cities, there is OBVIOUSLY NOT a
So why won't you answer the question? Why did crime go way down in NYC but is
high in Chicago and DC?
I don't know. I do not pretend to know. Perhaps they have more jails
in NYC. The crime stats, alone, were not the reason I mentioned the
article. If you get off your high horse and quit demanding answers to
obtuse questions, you might learn something besides calling names and
making judgemental arguments that are completely out of context.
Oh, bullsh*t. You pretended to "explain" the drop in crime in NYC by the
Garbage. You mentioned it *in a discussion on crime*.
Bottom line: you posted a bullsh*t statement that you *know* was bullsh*t, got
now you're backpedaling away from it as fast as you can.
I haven't done any name-calling in this thread.
Not until now, anyway: now I'm calling you a liar.
I have been paying attention and ulike you, I'm pretty clear on what was
Maybe you should go back and ACTUALLY read the original material
There was NO >>causality<< claimed, as you are trying to imply.
I'm probably a lot smarter than you, sonny
At least I know the difference between simple correlation and causality
You apparently haven't reached that level yet.
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