rs as It Pivots Back to Gas-Fueled Cars

Jan 12, 2024 Last reply: 2 years ago 61 Replies

Exactly. They are my gas provider. Seattle City Light has not sent any such request for my electricity usage. The other notice was from Puget Power, which sells gas in Seattle and electricity in addition elsewhere.

So, dumbshit, where you gonna get gas if there's no power?

I usually have 5 to 20 gallons of gas stored for the lawn equipment and generator. The car will have some gas in it and if the weather is cold it will still crank up where I live.

Portable generators. One connected to even one gas pump will get the process started.

And an electric car owner will likely have a home backup battery and/or will likely keep their car plugged in when not in use to ensure that it has full range in an emergency.

Right, until the portable generator or the gas station run out of gas, assuming they'd had a recent delivery. There is no fundamental difference between an ICE and a BEV in that situation, other than that the BEV can be recharged anywhere (given a portable generator), while the ICE needs go to a gas station and wait in line for hours in an emergency, if it actually -had- a portable generator and the staff competent to run it and the associated transfer switch etc. et alia, und so weiter.

T is full of hot air, as usual.

I may be wrong, but thinking that in Florida many gas stations had to have emergency generators for the pumps so if the people had to leave due to bad weather they could get gas. Think how many cars a gas pump can service in the time it takes to charge just one EV. Now the grid goes down and gas still pumping and no EVs being charged.

One other advantage is if the gas car runs out of fuel on the highway anyone can bring a few gallons of gas to it and they are on the road in

5 minutes. Try that with the EV.
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I'm wondering if we can expect a gas supply problem, considering that a lot of people are getting standby generators that use gas. If the electricity goes off because of limited capacity, gas consumption goes up.

Stations along evacuation routes must have generators.

No reason to bring gas to an EV, it does no good. OTOH, AAA now has some trucks equipped to give you a partial charge to get you to a station.

Many business users of natural gas are made to switch off gas and go to another form of enegery such as oil. Homes are the first priorty and business can be cut off. Where I worked the boilers were dual fuel, gas and oil. Sometimes we were told to get off gas and go to oil. If not the price of gas goes way up.

I suspect that Puget Power, which only covers parts of Washington is the one making the power reduction request because most of their power may be made with natural gas, which may get much more expensive for awhile. Seattle city light which is largely hydro and wind/solar power has made no such request.

You maybe haven't seen farm delivery fuel trucks. They look like this and have meters to measure how much fuel they've dispensed.

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One could drive along escape routes and sell fuel as necessary. It would be a mess but at least people could keep moving.

Same where I worked in the 80s. One difference. The price of gas did not go up, it would go off. I think it was an hour or two notice.

Of course I have, I'm even aware of why the fuel they deliver is colored red.

So one of those delivery trucks may carry three or four thousand gallons when full. That's 10 gallons for 300 cars, 5 gallons for 600 cars, etc. Hardly useful when a million people are evacuating a hurricane zone.

It may have been cut off at the last place I worked as it was a manufacturing plant. I was not that involved with the gas/oil at the time as far as taking the call.

Around 1970 I worked at a hospital and I am sure they would not be cut off. However someone did not go to oil one time and they got hit with a much larger gas bill. I did take the call for that several times and made sure I went to the boilers and switched to oil.

At one time they could not store natural gas in the local area, then storage was built. There was a rate for incoming gas and another for the storage gas if too much was being used for the incoming gas.

I'll take the EV nonsense seriously when they actually start building lots of nuke plants.

Diesel exhaust sucks. Eat it Jenna Bush viewers.

Seems Norway is doing OK with them

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All gas stations have portable generators. And they do not run out of gas immediately. Plus, they refuel their tanks by truck.

Plus cars that run out of gas during an evacuation can also be refueled by truck or gas can.

BEV's are stupid in an evacuation. A cold snap disables then. They have limited range. They pollute like hell. You can not open the doors when the battery quits (death traps). They are horrible to put out when they catch fire. yada yada yada

Some may but it's not common. Florida passed a law requiring them in stations on evacuation routes but even there most will not.

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