Yes, but they make up for it by often costing a small fortune when
something *does* go wrong...
... plus I like keeping it simple; if something does go wrong when
I'm out in the middle of nowhere, there's more chance I can fix it
by the roadside in an older vehicle than a modern one. I like that
safety and convenience.
Not so much now. It's not like the '80s with the GM "computer
controlled" carburetors. I had to replace all of the spark coils (two
at a time - they wouldn't replace them all the first time) on the '00
Sable. It was a couple of hundred each time, but that's not so bad.
I did spend $3K on my '01 Ranger, but that was everything from breaks,
to break lines, transmission lines, radiator, and whatever. The
Vermont salt got to them and the Alabama summer finished them off.
The more chance you'll have to. I *like* fuel injection and all of
that. The only repairs I've ever had to make to a fuel injection
system was a leaking distribution rail in my Vision and that was under
a (silent) recall. My '78 Granada went through at least a carb a
year. While it was usually only $100 to fix, $100 was a lot more
money then and fuel on the windshield wasn't a nice feeling ("I don't
believe it's supposed to do that").
Well, I suppose a lot of the cost these days is in the labor to fix it, so
if you can do stuff yourself you save a lot - but the parts on more modern
vehicles that do go wrong always seem to be more complicated and therefore
more expensive to me.
I have issues with any computer-controlled stuff, though. If it was
accessible, they gave me full schematics and a copy of the firmware then I
wouldn't mind; I can fix it myself if it does break. But I really don't
like stuff that's "black boxed" like that and considered not to be field
Agreed on the "mechanical" side of FI, though - definitely better than a
carb (although I've stripped and restored a few carbs now and they're not
too bad and *should* work for a long time before they next need to be
How come? Was that a known bad design, or was something else causing the
failure (the fuel used, lack of fuel line filter etc.)? I suppose it does
matter how many miles you were putting on it, but I'd expect a good carb
to go for close on 100k miles before needing major surgery.
(I'm starting to feel sorry for all these woodworking folk putting up with
this thread :-)
I've found that I spend *way* less on repairs over the life of a car
than I did 20 years ago. It's unusual for anything other than wear
parts (brakes, tires, etc.) to go bad anymore.
It doesn't break, though. I have no use for schematics or firmware.
I'm certainly not going to take the time to learn what makes it tick,
much less rewrite any of it.
I have no idea. It was a 1bbl Carter but couldn't even get the one
lung working right. Rebuilding it was a waste of time (they once
tried it four times in three months). They were cheap but being
without a car wasn't.
I've also done timing with the doghouse off. Wasn't that a
bit hot, with all the hot blast from the radiator coming
into the passenger compartment?
Yep, good old WD. I found the ground on the ignition module
As long as we're bragging, my 1970 Ford Custom got 9mph.
'Course it had a police interceptor engine, a calibrated speedometer up to
140, an 8-quart crankcase, and, believe it or not, a DELCO alternator.
Leece-Neville and Delco alternators in that size for an automobile
engine resemble each other if you don't look closely. Back in the
70's GM, Ford and Mopar alternators and AC compressors were quite
distinctive. I hardly recognize them these days without a hard look.
I think Chrysler started putting Asian alternators and compressors
on its vehicles some years ago.
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:23:20 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
My scenerio remains very possible. Who says they replaced it with a
180 amp delco? I'm saying they did what they had to, to get the car
back in service ASAP. Or, who knows? Maybe the alternator failed just
before they were going to get rid of the car, and they put in the
cheapest thing they could graft in there. Adapting brackets would be
A friend of mine had a Military Surplus Jeep that he bought at an
auction. The alternator was totally shot. An exact replacement
military alternator was $345. The Civilian alternator he installed
cost about $40. Was it the equal of the original? I sincerely doubt
it. But it got his Jeep through inspection and on the road.
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:00:19 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
An the FACT remains, ford alternators are every bit as available,
and generally in those years cheaper than a standard Delco. Putting in
a Delco would necessitate rewiring for the regulator as well, unless
they hacked it with a "one wire" delco - which didn't exist untill 10
or 15 years ago.
Accept it - your recollection was wrong.
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