SWMBO is a high school teacher, 10th, 11th, 12th grade biology, forensics
and AP biology as well as chemistry and physics.
She entered the teaching profession about 6 years ago after
having worked 17 years in private industry.
She is unique in the local school system, in that she is the only person
by the local school board that has ever been a success outside of education.
teachers and administrators have no clue how the real world works and wait
for the next crumb of "enlightenment" to drop from the ivory towers of the
universties and state administrators.
When school is in session, SWMBO will average working 15 hours a day
with 5 of that spent on non teaching related task.
Effective discipline is nonexistant, most parent are unreachable and could
less what happens at school.
No one is allowed to fail.
The system is broken beyond repair.
In contrast she sometimes teaches partime at a private military school, the
respectful and do their work.
I have sit in on several of these classes and always leave feeling good
about life in general,
just knowing that there are pockets of humanity where good behavior, manners
and hard work are still practiced in school.
Zero discipline issues in these classes, if any one ever raises their
voice or causes a disruption they are removed from the room by
according to her, when they return there is no more problems with that
Do the presently employed teachers do a good job teaching
the liberal agenda? Be dumb. Be compliant. Fear global
warming. And, lets teach everyone how to have "safe" sex by
rolling a condom on a cucumber before going to town.
It may differ with location but for the most part the teachers you are
describing are what we had 20 years ago, but not in Houston today. Today
they are asking "how to do" from the kids.
I know it is not their fault, the teachers, for the most part the good ones
are long since gone.
And they are gone because they no longer want to be baby sitters instead of
maintaining discipline and actually teaching. Teaching should also be
considered a part of how a child is taught to act and to respect others.
That does not happen any more.
While I agree the restrictions/cigarettes was the root of the problem. That
problem has decayed enough that we now can only get baby sitters/the cancer,
to hold positions for any length of time. Any decent new teacher typically
becomes a bad one or leaves the system. The problem is through out the
whole education system now.
The HS my son went to was an exception to the norm, that school had "good"
teachers and there was not a discipline problem. That public HS was by
invitation only. The only requirement to be invited to attend that school
was that you needed to have a "Satisfactory" average, for conduct, that's
it. If a student became a discipline problem they were warned once and the
second time transferred to one of the other HS's in the district.
When my son began at that HS the school had grades 9-12. In all four grade
levels there were only 650 students. I would estimate that in the other 3
HS's that there were in excess of 10K and that is a very conservative
estimate. Out of all of those students approximately 150 were invited each
year to attend Kerr HS.
Kerr HS taught the kids how to prepare for college every day. There was no
week off to study for the TAAS test, which is a Texas thing to judge how the
students are coming along for their grade level. His middle school took a
week every year to review for that test. IIRC the year my son graduated 95%
of the students had been accepted to a college. IIRC 87% of those students
had been awarded scholarships of $15K or more.
I'm certain that the education that my son received at Kerr HS played a very
major roll in him transitioning so smoothly into college. I recall the
10th graders mentoring the incoming 9th graders and most of them were high
achievers. Life transitioning into Kerr HS was a bigger challenge for my
son than going from that HS into college. I am also certain that Kerr HS
played a major part in my son getting into the Honors College his first year
at the university and graduating with a 4 year average GPA of 3.87.
"Summa Cum Laude" at that! Right?
Don't forget to add "parenting" into the equation.
Like Doug Miller's young Eagle Scout, few young folks achieve what both
your boys have achieved without the parents being a BIG part of the
Shhhhh! Don't let the current administration or its minions know about
that school, they'll claim it's not fair and find some way to destroy
it. Good going for your son and the parents who raised such a fine young
man, I know you're proud. I wish more school systems would separate the
wheat from the chaff. The chaff doesn't necessarily have to be thrown
away, perhaps a boot camp or two could turn it into something useful.
Not sure what you mean by "asking how to do", however in some districts
teachers are forbidden to actually teach subject matter--they are
constrained when a kid asks a question to "facilitate" the kid looking it up
for himself and disciplinary action will be taken against them if they
actually get caught answering the question.
I don't understand what you think cigarettes have to do with anything. As
for restrictions, it's not just "restrictions", its a whole mass of
However the teachers are not the cause. They don't make the decisions.
They don't make the policies.
You could staff the schools with a who's who of American leadership and they
wouldn't be any better than they are now because they'd be operating under
the same rules.
When there's something wrong with a huge organization, it's not the peons at
the bottom who are causing it.
And this is symptomatic of the problem. Every parent knows that the schools
are broken, but the one that their little darling went to was an exception.
So the teachers at that school weren't any better than the ones in the other
schools, they just made the problem kids somebody else's problem. So do you
think that those same teachers would have done nearly as well at one of the
And from that you conclude that the _teachers_ at those other schools are
And this is because the teachers were so brilliant you think.
And all of this you attribute to the excellence of the teachers and not to
the district policies that allowed the school to cherry-pick students?
My son's calculus teacher asked the students , how to do, a problem, she
could not figure it out.
I was making a compairison, cigaretts/cancer, It started with restrictions,
then came the bureaucrat crap and eventually the cancer spread to the
Don't recall saying the teachers were the cause but they have been sucked in
and have become part of the problem. The kids are more intelligent than
most of the teachers these days in the HISD.
That is right and the good ones eventually leave. Those that can't do
anything else or are in it for the benefits remain.
Correct, not the cause but do become part of the problem.
The only decent ones my son went to was the private school K-2 and the HS
9-12, the other 3 sucked.
Yeah they were better teachers. There was a waiting list for them to get
into the school. Problem kids were few and very far in between. My son
knew of "1" in the school, a frined of his, and he tas transferred out.
"Part" of the problem and the ones we delt with, 3-8 grades seem
comfortable with that. They did not care for 3 way meetings with the
And this is because the teachers were so brilliant you think.
I would not say brillinat so much as above average and the teachers had
nothing to do with obtaining the scolarships. That was all on the kids to
do the leg work.
The system was totally different in that school all the way up to the
principal. Teachers were allowed to teach and they did teach. And yes most
all of the teachers in that school were impressive, even to the kids.
Remember, the good teachers were lined up to get into Kerr. They wanted to
teach there, that came out at every PTA meeting.
In the other schools the teachers reminded me of typical "government
workers", there for the benefits.
I know that their attitudes were not all their fault, the system is to blame
but many of those teachers were like many of the kids, lost. You know when
the system sucks badly enough and you cannot attract good help because of
that fact you settle for less than desirable to fill the classrooms. That
is what I saw.
Do you call only accepting students with at least "Satisfactory" conduct
grade cherry picking? Let me mention also that younger borthers and
sisters were also accepted regardless of the conduct grade.
Many of thse kids were not brilliant but they certainly shined when they
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