Rethinking "Made in China"

But, is paying $800 for a more efficient ....read energy conserving, not colder.... gonna save you any money? Not likely before it dies and you need to spend another $800 another new one.

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notbob
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You folks who are going on about "Rabbits" and "Jettas" and suchlike are missing the point.

THE Volkswagen, the Type I, aka the Beetle, aka the Porsche Type 60, was in continuous production for over 60 years with more than 20 million built, both the longest and largest production runs in automotive history.

Uh, you might want to actually get drunk with a few teachers sometime before you blame them. They have to do what they can with what they've got and what they've got these days isn't much (and I'm not talking about the kids, I'm talking about the rules they are required to work under). Wanna fix education, first shoot all the professors of education and all the school boards.

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J. Clarke

Nope. They do what they do best; we do what we do best. Then we trade. Everybody gains.

So what do we do best?

  1. Grow stuff
  2. Make movies
  3. Design and build airplanes
  4. Create software
  5. Wage war
  6. Other things
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HeyBub

....as opposed to baseless dogma spewed by narrow minded twits who refuse to see beyond personal prejudices.

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notbob

Complete and total bullshit! As a mechanic who has owned more than one VW, don't even bother with trying to convince me of VW's reliability. A good practical design (bug) yes. Reliable? Please. My first bug, the engine trashed itself at a mere 45mph. The brakes locked up by themselves. I had a diesel Rabbit that almost did a Blues Brother's disintergration right before my eyes ....and suffered the exact same brake lock-up, I might add. I was driving a 1950 Chevy pickup long after my VWs were consigned to the trash heap.

Not as sad as your total failure at exercising common sense.

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notbob

They had great seat, though! ;)

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notbob

Nice self description there, nutbob ... well done!

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Swingman

They hadda keep replacing them.

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notbob

Sounds more like the guy who sold it to you saw a chump coming and you simply proved he was right.

Moi? ...lol. Don't look now, nutbob, but your little personal anecdote above tells that tale about you.

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Swingman

Yeah, but how many cars come with a tool kit? Admittedly, the tool kit wasn't much. It consisted of a cylinder with two socket ends (which fit virtually every nut on the car), two screwdrivers, a pair of pliers, and a metal rod used to turn the socket cylinder.

There's a video floating aroung (Guiness Book of Records folks) showing a crew removing a VW engine, moving the engine four feet from the rear bumper, reinstalling the engine, then driving the bug away. In one minute, four seconds.

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HeyBub

Give up, nutbob ... you're in over your head.

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Swingman

John Silber, former president of Boston College, was asked what one thing could be done to improve the quality of education in America. He answered: "Abolish colleges of education."

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HeyBub

Parachutes the same. Somebody jumped over the Pacific, drunk as a skunk, had a good chute, and at 200 feet hit the quick-release that is intended to allow one to quickly detach a fouled canopy so that the reserve can be used. The lawyers contended that the chute should have had a label warning about use while intoxicated.

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J. Clarke

My motor pool guys would repair any VW engine, on the mess hall table, for no charge and in about twenty minutes. In the service in Germany in the 60's and 70's there was the proverbial "$50 Volkswagen", which you bought for $50 from the guy going back home, and sold it for $50 to the next guy when you left. Some of those things had titles as long as your arm and had changed hands literally dozens of times.

My "$50 Volkswagen" a 1960, with tire chains on it, would take on any blizzard with style; being air cooled, it never failed to start in subzero weather, and it would run on the Autobahn all day at 80mph.

When winter hit in Southern Bavaria, and since I lived 20 miles from base on mountain roads, I left the 2002TI at home and drove the Bug by choice for the duration.

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Swingman

With regard to the "price point engineered models", those were not any cheaper to produce than the original Beetle--the reason they exist is that it was impossible to make the Beetle meet US emission and safety regulations without a major redesign (it was designed in 1936, remember--by the '60s it had already had a really good run). And the Beetle itself had been "price point engineered" from the outset.

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J. Clarke

A place to keep cold stuff like beer.

Lew

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Lew Hodgett

Tell that to Cheech and Chong! :)

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Swingman

Hardly.

There's a very simple reason why experienced folks could repair a VW in just minutes: practice!

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notbob

Does your utility offer discount rates for an electric hot water heater that operates only during off peak hours?

When my dad built our house in 1947, he installed a 100 gallon tank for 3 people that only operated at night.

We always had hot water heated by low cost electricity.

Lew .

Lew

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Lew Hodgett

"notbob" wrote:

True.

Same with the Opel and the "Bug".

Lew

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Lew Hodgett

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