Re: OT. Movie Prop Guns

Correct , there should not be guns on the set that can fire live rounds. Even at that there was live ammo on the set and the crew was firing the guns with live ammo when not working. That should never have been allowed.

The reality is most of these guys didn't shoot as many people in their whole career as Hugh O'Brian shot in one season of Wyatt Earp. The cop movies are roadrunner cartoons. TV/Movie cops are shooting a couple guys a week without any suspensions, review boards or possible criminal charges that they all have to deal with in the real world. As for the glorification, you only have to look at what comes out of Hollywood to predict the next hot seller in the gun market. When TV westerns were the rage, Bill Ruger made a fortune selling knockoffs of the Colt SAA. Then it was cop shows and snub nose pistols were all the rage. The .44 magnum was a niche player with a handful of sales to serious handgun hunters until Dirty Harry. Then that was a fad. The list goes on and on but you get the picture I hope. The hypocrites on the left coast don't mind profiting on guns and using them irresponsibly but they vilify responsible gun owners.

I wouldn't hand a gun to anyone who I thought might not have a clue how to handle it and it certainly would not be loaded. Even on a skeet range with the barrel pointed down range, you don't hand someone a loaded gun.

NRA got pulled into the political realm by the anti's. I'm a life member and one of the best deals I ever made maybe 50 years ago just for magazines and small amount of firearms insurance.

I thought about it and several times at the pistol range I have been handed a loaded gun to shoot. Barrel was pointed down range and I was told it was loaded so I just shot it without checking. Obviously there were no people down range and others were also shooting.

Several times I have been handed guns in other situations and first thing I do is check to see if it is loaded always pointing in a safe direction.

For several years after Dirty Harry one could not find hardly any S&W handgun in the stores. They were bought , often at higher than normal prices , as soon as they hit the stores.

I was just starting to shoot handguns back then and it took me several months before I could find a S&W handgun in a store. One store tried to order me on for 3 months after I left a deposit. Got my money back as they gave up.

I have no probelm taking a loaded gun from someone if they tell me it is loaded and I am going to shoot it right then. One of the first few things I tell someone that is new to shooting after the usual not pointing it at things is to check the gun to make sure it is unloaded even if you see the person handing it to you check it.

On a skeet range the protocol is the action is always open, gun unloaded until you step on the station and you are up. Then you load the number of rounds for that sequence (1 or 2) fire them, open the action and step off station. There is no excuse to ever hand someone a loaded gun, be off station with a loaded gun or to have 2 guns loaded at the same time in a squad.

No, but after almost 40 years of using guns in movies, you'd think he'd have absorbed some elementary trigger discipline.

Cindy Hamilton

Hot Fuzz (2007). Two characters have just watched Point Break and are commenting on it:

"Well, I wouldn't argue that it wasn't a no-holds-barred, adrenaline-fueled thrill ride. But there is no way you can perpetrate that amount of carnage and mayhem and not incur a considerable amount of paperwork."

Of course, later in the movie the two cops shoot up everything in sight.

Cindy Hamilton

You would have to add the recoil, the actors eyes blinking, his reaction too. With today's tools that can probably be done, but if so, it's only very recent and IDK what the limitations are. But it's a lot more complicated than just a flash and bang.

I see him paying dearly for his mistake. After all he was the producer and should have been overseeing things and knew that real ammunition was present on the set and that the prop gun was capable of firing it. He may pay in criminal court and will most likely be sued for his neglect.

There usually is a penalty for hiring incompetents too. He was top guy though, falls on him.

You have a cite for that?

and that the prop gun was capable of firing it. He

Google says that his net worth is $60 million' You can bet that they will be after it.

With some sort of synchronicity I'd had 'The Hunt for Red October' on my Netflix queue and it finally trickled to the top. I was thinking Sean Connery and didn't realize that movie was Baldwin's first big role to put him on the map. He kills someone in that movie too, but only in Hollywood terms.

The movie was slow moving but it was based on a Tom Clancy book after all. He has to be the longest winded author in that genre.

Slow moving? Hell no.

Red October ranks right in there with Run Silent Run Deep (Clark Gable, Burt Lancaster) and The Enemy Below (Robert Mitchum, Curt Jurgens) as a great submarine movie!

Baldwin did not continue in the role of Jack Ryan in subsequent movies. I thought it was a clash with Clancy but apparently it was the studio.

In this matter I am just repeating what the folks in the movie biz are saying To start with there is no recoil from a blank anyway. They fake the recoil. If they are flinching we all giggle and they are actors. Do that acting thing.