Re: OT. Christmas in Solitary??

Sometimes I wonder if one of the effects of CoViD will be an increase in the average intelligence of people (considering death of those unvaccinated).

> > >>> > >>>> Fauci is already claiming it's too soon to tell if people

> >>>> should have get togethers. He just as well quit talking. Normal, > >>>> average
> >>>> people aren't going to listen.
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> >>> Obviously the depop myocarditis clot-shots are not working. > >>>
> >> "At my hospital, over 95% of COVID-19 patients share one thing in
> >> common: They?re unvaccinated"
> >>
> >> "As an emergency medicine and critical care doctor at the University
> >> of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle, I?ve lost count of the
> >> number of COVID-19 surges since the U.S. pandemic began in Seattle in
> >> February 2020. But this one feels different. The patients are younger.
> >> They have fewer preexisting medical conditions. And at my hospital,
> >> over 95% of these hospitalized patients share one common feature:
> >> They?re unvaccinated".
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> >> Sorry, but you're just an ignorant dopey idiot.
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> > I had the Fauci-19 virus and it really wasn't that bad...nothing like
> > what the snowflakes have been whimpering about.
> >
> > And once you recover from the Fauci-19, you've got natural immunity that
> > is 10x better than the clot-shot.
> >
> Wrong again, and again, ......
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> Unless you get vaccinated AFTER you recover from covid.
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> "If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better
> than a vaccine?
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> The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines
> create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity
> from infection.
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> More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective > antibodies
> Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
> Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural
> immunity plus vaccination
>
> Natural immunity can be spotty. Some people can react vigorously and get
> a great antibody response. Other people don't get such a great
> response," says infectious diseases expert Mark Rupp, MD. "Clearly,
> vaccine-induced immunity is more standardized and can be longer-lasting."
> A third of infections don't get any protective antibodies

He may say that, IDK what he's basing it on, but there are studies that show the opposite, eg the recent large study in Israel that showed 14 times better protection for those that had Covid compared to the Pfizer vaccine.

> Some people who get COVID-19 receive no protection from reinfection ?
> their natural immunity is nonexistent. A recent study found that 36% of
> COVID-19 cases didn't result in development of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.
> The people had different levels of illness ? most had moderate disease,
> but some were asymptomatic and some experienced severe COVID-19. " >
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If it's that spotty, not as effective, how do you explain the Israeli study?

Right, there have been studies that showed getting vaccinated some months after recovering from Covid provided much better protection that either natural immunity or the vaccines alone.

I've gotten some blood test for the study I'm in, 3 times, and each time it shows antibodies from the vaccination, but none from infection. Which means there are two kinds.

And clearly it's better to have both.

AIUI, the vaccine antibodies are better.

What kind of idiot are you? Everybody who gets the vaccine does it by choice. Sure, the choice may be the loss of their job or getting the vaccine, but it's still a choice.

They're not rounding up people at gunpoint and jabbing their arms.

Cindy Hamilton

Denying your livelihood is putting a gun to your head. What other job discrimination would you tolerate? Not hiring someone with HIV? Not hiring the handicapped? Not hiring <pick a religious group>?

Did you go to first grade? Most of is could not go unless we were vaccinated. People saw the need and understood. Now we have Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson.

There has been an antivax movement for decades. It isn't the 50s anymore. I suppose if you are a minority, you are happy it isn't the 50s tho.

I wouldn't hire someone with HIV to work in a brothel in Nevada. I wouldn't hire the handicapped to be a firefighter. I wouldn't hire a Baptist to be a Catholic priest.

The health care workers can either get the vaccine or find another job.

Cindy Hamilton

Should the single mom pay off her +$50K student debt before she retrains for another career?

Seems like the vaccine is a better choice for your hypothetical single mom.

Cindy Hamilton

I would have serious thoughts about working with unvaccinated people. It is a significant unnecessary risk. I am SURE I am not in the minority, since 70+% have already had at least 1 shot.

Should I ( and 70% of workers) have to work with unvaccinated people holding a gun to my head?

And all her co-workers will thank her.

From my experience with nurses in the 70s when they had the mass exodus, they transition into barmaid pretty seamlessly. They were making the same money too, working better hours. I knew a few that were very happy with the career move. They did keep their license up, just to keep their options open. Some moved back into nursing when the supply/demand curve swung the other way and the money got better. Some never went back.

If you were vaccinated and you actually believe, why would it bother you other than maybe having to do their work when they die?

I got my shot, I believe and I don't care about those who didn't, either way.

If you actually drill down on that CDC morbidity data I posted, old fat blacks and hispanics are going to tilt that stat so much that a working age white guy may be more likely to get killed in his car. Particularly if he likes to stop off for a beer after work.

aND IT WILL work even if she changes jobs. 3 good reasons.

And she can go find a better job where everyone is vaccinated to relieve stress.