Pavers walkway question

Jul 22, 2023 Last reply: 2 years ago 35 Replies

Seconded here. We've done paving stone walkways and a paving stone patio and all of it turned out very well. In fact, we've had multiple neighbors stop by to ask us for a referral so they can get similar work done at their property. (We all get a good laugh when we tell them that it's DIY.) If you prepare a proper base, the rest is fairly easy and nearly foolproof.

We start with a couple inches of crushed granite. It compacts very well and provides a very level and stable base. A (rented) plate compacter is best, but for smaller projects I made a compacter from scrap lumber.

With the crushed granite in place, compacted and leveled, we add an inch or two of sand and screed it to make sure it's level.

We don't use plastic because of the potential for it to trap water. Another option might be a layer or two of heavy landscape fabric, but we've never found that anything can grow up through the crushed granite, the sand, and the pavers, so we don't even bother with fabric.

We don't leave intentional gaps between the stones. I've never seen anyone do that.

We don't do that. With a proper base, there should be no settling.

We definitely don't do that.

We use polymeric sand to fill the natural gaps between the paver stones. Polymeric sand is different from regular sand in that polymeric sand sticks together and hardens when it gets wet, so we dump a few bags of polymeric sand onto the new project, then we sweep it across all of the joints, allowing the sand to fall into the cracks and fill them up. When no more sand can fall into any cracks, we lightly water the entire project. When the water dries, the project is finished. So far, nothing has grown up between the stones.

Our way is not the only way, and may not be the best way, but so far it has been exceptional so I'll highly recommend it.

For several years, I used cleaning vinegar on the weeds in my gravel driveway < my attempt to avoid using glyphosate >

and it worked OK. I used it full-strength in a pump-sprayer. It doesn't kill the roots like round-up so it has to be done a few times per year. Keeping them knocked-back will help prevent re-seeding. Cleaning vinegar is 10 % < double the concentration of table vinegar > and available at the hardware store. John T.

Polymeric sand is actually better idea than silicone adhesive. I have just checked their price on HomeDepot website. They sell by weight (kg or lb). Sand is very heavy. I don't know if Polymeric sand is cheaper than using Silicone.

I have used 20% at times. The weeds mock me now. (I may have killed all the type of weeds that are suseptable to vinegar.)

I have to pick the [expletive deleted] by hand.

Can you post a pic of the area?

I've never seen 20 % - did you make your own ? somehow. John T.

You can get it from Amazon

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The even got some 45% in the search too!

After three gallons from Amazon, I did not notice any difference over the cheap white stuff from Wally World. I do know that it has to be a HOT DRY day so that the weeds will uptake the vinegar. If the ground is moist and it is not so hot outside, vinegar is worthless

Certainly!

It was dusk, so the lighting is not so good

The top is around the corner up to the gate.

The bottom is from the sidewalk to the corner.

You can't see the weeds to well as I have plucked most of them. The worst weed is the infernal cheat grass.

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Hallelujah! After 43 years of tending the lawn, I shut off the water and am watching the lawn die. Big, big water savings and concerned neighbors. I'm not lazy, I care. That's the ticket!

I did the same think. It is all rocks now (and weeds). I have a 4' circle in the middle of the rocks that I have flowers planted it.

I'm going to get rock that won't blow around in the fall, when all the leaves from down the street end up on my property, and my yard has to be leaf blown. At least, I think I am. My dream would be to have silver and blue rock with a sagebrush or piñon pine in the four foot circle, but that ain't going to happen. So far, just letting the yard die is satisfying. I don't have to water. I don't have to mow. I don't have to charge or blow out the sprinkler system. I don't want to do squat in the yard anymore. So far, so good.

I am looking at my small grass yard wondering how I would replace it. I see nothing cheap. How allergic?

Love the One You're With

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Turn it into a crop. Reward yourself. Eat and drink it into an endangered species.

Brewing with Cheatgrass

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Best case, persistent asthma when ever the wind picks up the out gassing and blows it through the cracks into the house. Pretty much the same as secondary perfume and cigarette exposure from someone walking down the side walk, but there 24/7.

Worst case, in the E.R. gasping in terror struggling to breath

Maybe I could open a hole up to hell and pass it through to the devil to stoke his furnaces

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