OT. The Signers of the Declaration

Better that 50 sets of know it alls try something than 1 set. Someone is bound to get it right. Maine and Nebraska allocate their electoral college votes. It hasn't mattered since both are small states but at least someone is doing something different.

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Dean Hoffman
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No, if you read the speeches by candidates, including Lincoln, if you consider that the south seceded even before Lincoln was inaugurated, before he had done anything, then you have to look at what he said during the campaign? What was the big issue in the election? Slavery.

Also look at the letters from the soldiers back to their families. On both sides they thought the reason was slavery.

"States rights" was promoted as the issue decades later when being pro-slavery was no longer acceptable. When it would be embarrassing to say that one was for slavery, so states rights was advanced as the cause.

Or if you still think it's about states rights, what state right did they object to losing? The right to have slaves.

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micky

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A compromise was reached that bought the country a few more years but the wealthy northern merchants and manufacturers couldn't resist trying to grab more money.

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rbowman

It's not 1797 anymore. The U.S. population is no longer 5 million.

Cindy Hamilton

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angelica...

The original idea didn't scale very well.

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rbowman

On a separate subject, I heard an interview with someone who didn't want to get vaccinated, and he said, "I don't like the government telling me what to do."

Isn't that almost the only thing the government does, tell people what to do? Isn't that the meaning of "govern"?

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micky

In this case they are not telling you what to do. They are telling you what you SHOULD do and giving reasons for it.

Marjorie Taylor Green opened her stupid mouth and said it was like the brown shirts forcing you to get vaccinated. There is no force.

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Ed Pawlowski

But there never were any witch burnings in Massachusetts.

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None

On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 11:45:20 -0400, Ralph Mowery posted for all of us to digest...

Besides picking up the graft money from: (fill in box ex: lobbyists)

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Tekkie©

You are taking the side that says they just hanged them. OK

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gfretwell

That is called being reelected and that is their most time consuming job.

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gfretwell

Picky. Okay so they hung them just like the Puritans, those staunch supporters of religious freedom, hung Mary Dyer for being a Quaker. Damn good thing the Irish brought a little civilization to the state.

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rbowman

Not really. After the civil war the black people were free but living wasn't and their pay barely paid for the shacks they lived in before and the same shitty food they ate before. Even up into the 70s, the Jamaicans that came here on work Visas to chop sugar cane usually did not have much money left to take home after they paid for their farmer owned shacks and shitty food. You could say the same for West Virginia coal miners for a century or more. The company paid them, then they spent all their money on the company housing and at the company store.

The social situation changed but the economics didn't change that much. There are plenty of people who will say life in Mississippi didn't really change for black people for 100 years after the civil war.

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gfretwell

On Wed, 07 Jul 2021 21:22:55 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com posted for all of us to digest...

You are right; I stand corrected.

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Tekkie©

On Wed, 07 Jul 2021 22:43:12 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com posted for all of us to digest...

Read "Hillbilly Elegy" by J D Vance

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Tekkie©

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