Quite interesting, thanks.
It really shows the obscenity of human population growth. Some hope even if
the leveling off point is twice the current population. What we need is
half of current or even better, 1/4 of current. One can dream.
June 06, 2018 10:41 AM
Updated 35 minutes ago
No, Californians, it's not against the law to shower and do laundry on
the same day — even though loud voices in the conservative blogosphere
are claiming it is.
Taking aim at two water-conservation laws signed last week by Gov. Jerry
Brown, a conspiratorial far-right financial blog called Zero Hedge
reported Sunday that Californians could be fined $1,000 a day if they
bathe and wash their clothes on the same day.
"If you don't plan to comply it's going to be way cheaper to move," the
blog post stated.
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The bogus information, which appears to have originated on a site called
"The Organic Prepper," was widely disseminated on Twitter and Facebook,
and cited by several conservative websites, including the Federalist
Papers and Breitbart.
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Joe Walsh, a conservative radio host and former congressman with 139,000
Twitter followers, shared a link to the blog post Monday and added:
"California is awful. Just awful."
Republican U.S. Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Tulare, didn't link to the post, but
he expressed his frustration on his blog that Californians would face
"draconian" showering and laundry restrictions because of "environmental
extremists and the Democrats."
"Californians don't want to have to choose between doing their laundry
and taking a shower," he said.
Those claims, however, aren't true. The shower and laundry police won't
be knocking on doors anytime soon.
The two bills, AB 1668 and SB 606, set general guidelines for water
agencies to follow in California's post-drought era.
Water agencies will be encouraged to have their customers limit indoor
water use to an average of 55 gallons a day per person, declining to 50
gallons by 2030.
But that's just a target a water district will be asked to meet across
its ratepayer base, as part of a broader "water budget" strategy.
Assemblywoman Laura Friedman, D-Glendale, author of AB 1668, accused
Zero Hedge, Nunes and others of spreading "pure fiction."
"I wish people would stop scaring people with this sort of thing," she said.
Under the bills Brown signed, individual water agencies will be required
to factor in the 55-gallon target into their water-efficiency goals, but
it's just one part of a utility's conservation calculations.
State regulators in consultation with local water agencies also will set
limits on how much water can be used to water lawns and fill swimming
pools. Outdoor use accounts for the lion's share of total residential
consumption in much of California.
But those outdoor standards will vary greatly from one district to the
next. The legislation allows for places like Sacramento with
comparatively large yards and hot, dry summers to use more water
outdoors than in foggy coastal regions where yards are small and cool
weather lessens the need to water as much.
The new rules also encourage water providers to replace leaky
infrastructure. Ancient pipes and crumbling water mains account for
millions of gallons of wasted water statewide.
The idea behind the legislation is that all those factors — the indoor
standards, the limits on outdoor water use, making water systems more
efficient — will be built into a utility's "water budget."
"The only thing the water supplier is going to be measured on is, 'Are
they within budget?'" said Max Gomberg, climate and conservation manager
with the State Water Resources Control Board.
Zero Hedge claimed that Californians will get fined if if they shower
and wash clothes on the same day because a single load of laundry will
consume 40 gallons of water alone.
But that claim doesn't hold water either.
While 20 years ago, an inefficient top-loading washer might use 40
gallons, most high efficiency washers now use between 9 and 26 gallons
per load, according to Consumer Reports.
Californians have been switching to these more efficient washers as
their old machines wear out, along with their old shower heads, toilets
and dishwashers, Gomberg said.
Plus, even if you have a 40-gallon washer, each person living in your
household probably won't run separate loads of laundry every day. And,
even if they do, their neighbor probably won't.
Remember, it's the average per capita water use across a district that
All those factors combined is why Gomberg is optimistic that
Californians can hit those targets.
Several cities, including San Francisco and Santa Cruz, already average
less than 55 gallons per person per day for both indoor and outdoor use,
Gomberg's home in the Bay Area uses 25 to 35 gallons of water per person
daily, even with "a toilet that isn't ... even as efficient as some of
the newer models, I'm embarrassed to say."
Gomberg said the 55-gallon figure isn't new. State lawmakers set it as
the standard for indoor use almost 10 years ago, an amount that is
greater than what's allowed in many European countries.
So what about those $1,000 fines ?
Eventually, the new legislation says water providers not following the
rules could face fines of up to $1,000 a day, and more if the governor
declares a drought emergency.
But it's the water agencies — not individual ratepayers — that would get
the fines. Sure, a district could pass those costs onto your water bill,
but think dollars and cents instead of thousands out of your bank account.
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It's a moot point. It doesn't seem like human beings will be able to
survive 180th as long as the dinosaurs reigned. We are either going
to wipe ourselves out, poison the planet or succumb to a global
No, not better. But certainly no worse. I'm not a physician but I have
made it a goal to follow the Hippocratic oath, "Above all else, do no harm".
I think I have pretty much succeded in that. I have provided services
people wanted at fair prices and done well. I have never consciously tried
to take advantage of everyone; I have been kind to people and critters; I
have helped those who needed help. I'm going out with a clear conscience..
Fair enough. We have two kids, both adopted. We've been consumers, but
not wasteful or carelessly damaging to the world.
Not everyone agrees with me but:
Don't have kids if you cannot afford them
Don't have kids if you cannot or do not want to take care of them
yourself. My wife stayed home instead of paid daycare.
Don't buy junk just because it is fashionable.
I agree with you. We raised 3 sons in a similar manner and passed these
values on to them. We achieved the American dream in that they are
probably better off then we were/are. Our 2 granddaughters may be even
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