Second-hand stores are your friend. I use a glass (rectangular)
baking dish with *vertical* sides (instead of the sloping sides
common nowadays) for many of my baked goods. Mine dates from
the 60's. A few minutes browsing the second hand stores over
the years "when I had time" have helped me locate two of them.
Where are you getting the numbers? Since you are talking a trip this
morning are you using what the car is telling you? If so, it is
The last five cars (different brands) had the computer that gave you the
mpg of a trip and since the last fill up. I've checked the old method
of filling the tank and calculating. The car computer ranged from 2 to
6 mpg too high
In reality, it is very rare to really get what the official rating is.
Verified over hndreds of tanks of gas on many cars.
Ours has been really close. We record the odometer reading and the gallons
of fuel that the *pump* claims to have dispensed. We compare this to the total
that the car reports for each tankful along with the running average. The
car always reports *lower* MPG than we calculate.
E.g., car reports 190.3 miles on the last tank. (the car decides when it
has been "filled"; we don't "tell it"). Car claims 20.5 MPG. Simple
arithmetic suggests the actual efficiency was 21.29 MPG.
For a car that claims to get "up to" 20MPG in city driving.
Of course, if car was claiming 29 MPG for each "trip" -- then reporting an
average of 20 for the tank, we would be suspicious. OTOH, when we see it
report *5.8* MPG for a trip down the block (*a* block), we don't start
Perhaps you should buy a "smarter" car? :>
Our vehicle currently has ~4300 miles on it. As of the last fillup (at
4259), we'd pumped 214.402 gallons into it. That's 19.86 MPG over the life
of the car.
If the manufacturer told me "up to 20 MPG" and I calculate 19.86 -- while
the car claims 19 (doesn't display tenths) as its average -- I'm not going
to gripe that "I'm not getting what the official rating is"!
People get hung up on mpg and ignore cost to own.
The price of gas goes up so people sell the paid off gas guzzler and go
into debt thousands of dollars to save $4 a week on the fuel cost.
If you drive 10,000 miles a year, at 25 mpg you'd buy 400 gallons but at
35 mpg only 285 gallons. So, you save 115 gallons. Yeah, that
justifies buying a new economical car.
For the last 15 years I just buy economical cars and watch the SUVs come
and go. It gives me a little tickle of Schadenfreude when I pull in and
cram 8 gallons or so into the Yaris, wash the windows and plates, and
check the tire pressure while the guy in the barge next to me is still
Sure, but the comments in this thread have concerned MPG.
If you want to address TCO, then you have to look at cost of
maintenance, insurance, registration (many places treat vehicles
as "property" so a new car can cost hundreds per year to register
while anolder one can cost close to nothing), etc.
You'd also have to consider opportunity costs/time value of money
(that could be *growing* instead of depreciating), risk valuation
(you're less likely to get dragged into a lawsuit for running over a
toddler if you don't drive a car!), effect on the rest of the economy
(what sort of a factor does the auto industry have on YOUR job),
cost of your time (you can walk "for free"), etc.
That, of course, depends on what the gas guzzler is costing you!
A 30 year old vehicle that already has high maintenance costs
doesn't look any *better* when you consider its fuel economy!
It suggests you have an additional $500/year (at $4 gas) to put towards
your "new" car budget. I took *my* car off the road cuz I wasn't putting
1,000 miles / year on it! I could take a cab for less money (per mile)
than operate my vehicle.
Instantaneous readout on my new Subaru indicates I get 100 mpg going
Wonder if that guy with little "d" after his name will mandate that
roads can only go down hill? Would sure help deter climate change.
If states do no follow mandate, they will not get highway funds from the
Doubt this is happening on the Subaru.
I don't know how they can instantaneously measure mileage and would
think it extremely hard to do it on fuel usage.
Car also has a CVT which gives maybe an extra mpg.
Mileage is a takeoff on the tranny -- count wheel rotations per unit time
(or, at very low speeds, time per wheel rotation); ditto driveshaft, etc.
Fuel usage is by monitoring how *they* fire the injectors. You know how
much fuel is introduced with each activation (if it wasn't predictable,
the engine wouldn't run smoothly).
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_Cylinder_Management> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Fuel_Management> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Displacement_System>
It will be interesting to see how their CVT holds up over time!
We liked the two Subarus we test drove. But, the "tranny hump"
(where the bell housing would be on a rear-wheel drive vehicle)
was too wide and encroached on the leg position for the passenger
(your left foot can't be placed directly in front of your left *hip*,
let alone to the *left* of it!)
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