and many others
have us upset...
...fortunately our elected representatives are on top of this situation:
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:48:01 PM UTC-7, trader_4 wrote:
Im a devoted fan of Andy Borowitz. He puts his needle into anyone, without fear or favor.
Guess you didn't get the point of juxtaposing two legitimate, alarming reports about global warming with Andy's wonderful satire.
Happy to have clarified. Sleep well.
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:59:06 PM UTC-4, Higgs Boson wrote:
If you knew that was supposed to be a joke, then what you tried to
do is lie and trick people into believing your little scam. There was
nothing there whatever to indicate that it was humor.
And you're not the only scammer or at least someone duped:
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:49:42 AM UTC-4, Bob_Villa wrote:
I'm talking about HB making an obviously deliberately dishonest post
here, idiot. There was nothing in that original post to indicate it
was humor. It's a link to what looks like a real, factual report.
Lordy, it never ceases to amaze me how many non-belivers there are out
there and how fanatically insistent they are about how there is no
such thing as global warming *caused by mankind*!!
What? Did you think that mankind could be dumping ungodly amts of
unatural pollution into our atmosphere for over 100 yrs and it means
nada!? All those autos, coal fired electrical plants, commercial
aircraft, etc, have absolutely zero effect on this Earth's atmosphere?
Who is that incredibly stupid!?
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:03:41 PM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
Yes, it DOES sound incredibly stupid, but when you stop & think how the min
ds of hoi polloi work, all becomes clear. A few factors:
1. Most people (hereafter MP) will do almost anything not to have to make
a change in their living and thinking patterns.
2. MP are not well educated (in the true sense; not about obtaining a piec
e of paper that -- they think -- will get them a better job). MP are aware
of only a narrow, parochial range of events. They have been systematicall
y dumbed down over the last 40-50 years by interested parties who need them
NOT to think critically; NOT to analyze the input they receive.
3. MP are easily manipulated by information caught on the fly from writte
n, visual, or audio sources. They either do not know how to verify/researc
h that info, or don't want to take the trouble, or feel unconnected with th
4. MP are totally unaware that they are being manipulated by the owners of
very, very big bux who hire/corrupt sources to disseminate what they want
MP to believe.
5. MP either do not understand the electoral process or some would say rig
feel only disgust and contempt for the officials who are supposed to be ser
ving the public interest.
6. SOME P have religious beliefs that the Big Bux people in #4 cold-bloode
dly exploit to manipulate those religious people to act against their own i
7. MP are unaware of, or downplay the power of the "determination bias", a
fancy term defined as:
*** A psychological phenomenon that explains why people tend to seek out in
formation that confirms their existing opinions and overlook or ignore info
rmation that refutes their beliefs.***
8. A very interesting phenomenon that has been extensively studied:
MP are unable to fully focus on more than ONE person, ONE situation, ONE pr
oblem at a time. That is a stunner; hard to take in.
There is tons more available to those interested in how MP are manipulated.
Depressing, but thoroughly researched
We should be pushing hard to have our children REALLY educated so they can
make decisions that are good for THEM, not for their manipulators
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:15:48 AM UTC-4, Higgs Boson wrote:
inds of hoi polloi work, all becomes clear. A few factors:
e a change in their living and thinking patterns.
ece of paper that -- they think -- will get them a better job). MP are awa
re of only a narrow, parochial range of events. They have been systematica
lly dumbed down over the last 40-50 years by interested parties who need th
em NOT to think critically; NOT to analyze the input they receive.
ten, visual, or audio sources. They either do not know how to verify/resea
rch that info, or don't want to take the trouble, or feel unconnected with
of very, very big bux who hire/corrupt sources to disseminate what they wa
nt MP to believe.
All of the above apply equally to you global climate warming
proponents, libs too. As for corrupt dissemination, you need only to look
at how you tried to lie to people, smear Ryan and Bachmann, with this
erving the public interest.
dedly exploit to manipulate those religious people to act against their own
You didn't include the part about libs like you have "beliefs" that
similar cold-blooded exploiters manipulate. You just started a thread
where you tried to do exactly that by misleading.
a fancy term defined as:
information that confirms their existing opinions and overlook or ignore in
formation that refutes their beliefs.***
Which of course applies to you too. But you don't admit it because
you libs believe you're intellectually superior and it's everyone
else who disagrees that's stupid.
problem at a time. That is a stunner; hard to take in.
n make decisions that are good for THEM, not for their manipulators
Yes, and I'm sure "really educated" equals spending even more money on
schools, depsite all the failure so far. And I'll bet it excludes ideas
like Charter schools, school vouchers, ie new, free market solutions.
I'm still going with the: "If I can't fix it, it's not a problem"
theory. I'm also considering "I don't want to fix it cause I love my
lifestyle and I don't like change."
Probably a combination of the two. It's complicated.
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:03:41 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
That's "science" to you libs? It has zippo to do with proving
that manmade CO2 is causing global warming. But it is consistent
with the ignorant hippie belief that anything and everything man
does is royally screwing the planet. If we listened to all the
similar claims, we'd be living in caves.
For some sound science, you have the fact that for more than a
decade, the global temp rise has stopped. It's flattened out
and it could be about to head the other way. That's
why all the global warming fanatics have renamed it global
climate change. Much easier to show a picture of a hurricane,
drought, or tornado and dupe people than it is to talk about the
fact that temps haven't risen for over a decade, while carbon
emissions have continued to go up.
All those autos, coal fired electrical plants, commercial
Strawman of "zero effect" noted. Strawman rejected. I don't see
anyone here, nor the vast majority of of those skeptical about manmade
global warming, saying autos, coal, etc has had zero effect on our
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:12:24 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
That may be true of some small minority of those who don't believe in
manmade global warming. Similarly there are probably some small
minority of manmade global warming proponents who really don't believe
their side either, but are just doing it because of "handlers".
It's not the case with the overwhelming majority on either side though.
It's good to look for other forms of energy besides fossil fuels, but
there are too many unknowns to say what effects various levels of CO2,
methane, etc., have on climate change.
A good basic overview of all the various influences on climate change...
An excerpt..... "The future monitoring of atmospheric processes
involving water vapor will be critical to fully understand the feedbacks
in the climate system leading to global climate change. As yet, though
the basics of the hydrological cycle are fairly well understood, we have
very little comprehension of the complexity of the feedback loops.
Also, while we have good atmospheric measurements of other key
greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and methane, we have poor
measurements of global water vapor, so it is not certain by how much
atmospheric concentrations have risen in recent decades or centuries..."
OK, now.... Here is my Top 10 list of other things that are worth
spending about 2 seconds on....
1 - UFOs, space aliens, or $B trips to any astronomical body (*)
2 - Anything website with a stupid name
3 - Anyone associated with pro sports who makes over $250K/yr (*)
4 - Anti-gravity and time machines
5 - Any English- or French- speaking politicians
6 - Any late night TV show since Johnny Carson
7 - Anything the lovely wife says except "dinner's ready"
8-10 - For future use.
* Except Sandra Bullock.
HomeOwnersHub.com is a website for homeowners and building and maintenance pros. It is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here.
All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.