OT Ebay. What does it mean when something has 9 bids by the same
person, with the 2nd and each bid after that about 10 seconds, as
little as 6 seconds, after the previous bid?
You can't bid again unless you bid more, so is 6 to 10 seconds enough
to increase the amount and bid again?
And why would someone do that?
There are no competing bidders so the amount showing as the bid is
still the required starting bid.
I believe what you're witnessing is called "proxy bidding" which, in
Ebay terms means that the Ebay software will automatically place the
required bid for you up to the maximum bid you enter.
Auction lot is at $10.00 with $0.50 increments.
You determine that you're willing to spend a maximum of $17.50 for the
item and enter that as your bid.
The bidding is at $10 and increments by $0.50 so YOUR bid immediately
shows up at $10.50 then the software checks the other bidders and finds
that the guy who bid $10.00 is in it for a max of $15.00 so it will
enter a bid from him at $11.00 and so it goes.
If we assume that the two of you are the ONLY bidders, the bid will
climb to $15.50 in a heartbeat and then stop there with you being the
current high bidder until somebody else joins in and posts a bid of $16
at which time your bid for $16.50 will be entered.
It's just like a real auction.
Most savvy bidders use "sniping" software which monitors the bidding
action and doesn't place ANY bid at all until the waning seconds of the
auction. I've scored some really decent buys by not placing my bid
until the last 5 seconds of the auction.
+1 This would not be the first time that Micky has pitched a curve ball
So, while I agree with Ralph, let's pretend we're from Missouri and let
Micky give us the auction number so we can see what's really happening.
In that same vein, if there truly is only ONE bidder, it would make no
sense for the seller to run up the bid against himself, as some have
suggested. Nor would it be possible, I don't believe. The proxy
bidding would prevent that from the same bidder and if the seller was
playing a game with multiple bidding accounts then there would obviously
be more than a single bidder.
How about it, Micky, show us the auction number please.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:02:23 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
I'm sure he could increase his bid 8 times, but I don't think he could
do it in only 6 seconds or even 10 seconds. Though maybe his
connection is a lot faster than mine.
Or that he would even if he could.
Another reason I didn't rush to bid, because I think he must have
increased the bid 8 times.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 15:07:07 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
I don't know if this applies exactly, but here is a response I got from
E-Bay back in 2006 which says there is no way you can bid against yourself,
and then gives a couple of examples where you are, in fact, bidding against
yourself (or with the same result: your bid was highest, and then it is
increased without a competing higher bid). Jerks!
Dear eBay Member,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your concern about know how did
you bid against yourself. I will certainly clarify this to you.
I have checked the bid history for the item and
found that you have been outbid on this item. I do understand that you
were already the high bidder at $27.49 and you raised your maximum bid.
This also raised your bid amount to $28.20 with no one else bidding and
you are now noticing as if you have bid against yourself.
Let me inform you that, there is no way to bid against yourself. The
eBay system will protect you from bidding against yourself. However,
there are a few situations where it can *look* like you're bidding
against yourself. Let me give some examples:
It would appear that you are bidding against yourself, if the current
high bid is between bid increments. *******As you were the high bidder in
situation and you placed another bid, your bid has increased to the next
round bid increment.********* To see a list of bid increments, please go to:
The high bid will always try to be a full bid increment over the next
highest bid. If you are less than one bid increment over the next
highest bid, then raising your maximum bid will increase the current
high bid to a full bid increment above the next highest bid.
Another instance where it would look like you're bidding against
yourself is suppose you and another bidder bid the same maximum bid. Our
system will declare a high bidder based on whoever submitted the high
bid first. If you submitted the high bid first -- and then placed
another bid -- our system will increase your bid by one bid increment
over your previous bid. ******This is necessary so you can keep your spot as
the high bidder.***** WTF??**** In this case, it may appear that you bid
yourself. But in reality, your bid was placed against the other bidder's
Reserve Price items are another exception. If you're bidding on a
Reserve Price Auction and your maximum bid amount meets or exceeds the
reserve price, your bid will automatically rise to meet the reserve
price. It won't exceed the reserve price unless another member bids
For example, let's say there is a Reserve Price Auction with an opening
bid of $5 and a reserve amount of $30. If you make a maximum bid of $35,
you would become the high bidder at the reserve price of $30 because
your bid met the seller's reserve price. If another member then bid $31,
your bid would automatically rise to $32 and so on, until your maximum
bid of $35 was reached.
Thank you for being a valuable member of the eBay community.
eBay Customer Support
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:11:57 -0700, "taxed and spent"
If someone else can bid less than an increment above your bid, I think
this one makes sense. And I think he could if he bid before you bid
what is now your highest bid, although if that were the case, why
isn't he the leading bidder? Okay, it doesn't make sense. At least
not yet. If he bid at exactly the same time you made your previous
bid, not the most recent one, why wasn't he the high bidder? Since
your previous bid was less than his bid, less than an increment less,
but less nonetheless.
I agree with you here. Why can't they just leave you as the high
bidder with the bid that ties the other guy but was submitted first?
You were high then, why shouldn't you still be high now?
This example is not an example.
Thanks for finding and posting this.
When a person bids, they can set a limit to their bid but it won't
increase unless another bids. For example, if an item is currently at
$30 and a person bids $40, the bid increment will stat at the required
limit such as $31. Therefore, the bid is at $31 because it's past the
limit of the $30 bidder. If you come along and bid $32, you'll be
outbidded because the previous bidder made his limit to $40. If you try
again at $33, you'll receive the same message you've been outbidded.
Some people trying a $1 or $2 bidding increment only to receive the
message repeatedly until they pass the previous bidder's limit of $40
and they then become the current highest bidder, if they take it that far.
On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 9:11:38 PM UTC-4, SBH wrote:
Look at the link that Micky posted and explain how your explanation fits the
specific auction. 1 bidder, bidding the same price ($25) 9 times in a 2 minute
period. Even when you opt to see the automatic bids, there are none, just the
same 9 bids from the same bidder.
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:00:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
That it says 25 on each line could not mean that the bid amount each
time is 25. If it showed the bid, then other bidders would know how
high each other bidder was willing to go. It only shows what the high
bid in effect is after each (maximum) bid has been made, and the high
bid in effect stayed at 25.
On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 10:22:54 PM UTC-4, Micky wrote:
You provided a link to a closed auction. I thought the bid history on a closed auction
showed the actual bids. I just watched a recent auction and waited until it closed, then
looked at the bid history and it showed each individual bid. See here.
I'm no ebay expert, but if I look at that bid history and see all the individual bids,
doesn't that mean that the link you provided also shows each individual bid?
Once the auction is closed, the concept of hiding the maximum bid entered by a user
no longer applies.
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