Perhaps...as I noted previously if they can be taken apart that's
certainly an option.
The old push-buttons here can be indeed but the assembly screw are in
the rear and are in the corners--the asymmetry of those locations makes
me wonder if that is their purpose. Not saying it isn't, just don't
know...given the age it is probable they are able to be taken apart;
particularly since looking at the picture again I do notice the color
difference between the front and the rest of the case--looks like on
these maybe only the front is actually ceramic the rest might be another
material similar to an early Bakelite, perhaps???
I'd like to have a bunch of 'em, I could probably get away w/ using them
whereas swmbo says emphatically "no" to putting the pushbuttons back. :(
I think you're going to have a problem with wires. It's that cloth
covered rubber insulated stuff. Its a bitch to work with when its
that old. The rubber just cracks and falls off. My house was built
in the late 50s and every time I open a box up, the insulation falls
off the wires.
I hate that stuff!
Who you talkin' to???
The house here was rewired when the pushbutton switches I'm ruing were
removed w/ nmc.
OP's pictures do show that, yes, and he's already commented he didn't
move the existing switches out of the box for that reason at least until
There is a fair amount of cloth wiring still on the place in various
locations--I just added a junction in one box in the car garage for an
opener. It went ok w/ care but only took pulling two additional 14's in
the conduit and connecting them to the existing junction at a box on the
ceiling that already fed the light and outlet.
The older rubber is worse than the cloth generally, agreed since it does
get so brittle.
Hmm, my house was built in the late 40's and the wiring is an early form
or romex with a cloth outer cover, but the individual conductors are
plastic insulated. It's held up surprisingly well! So apparently the
two different styles were produced concurrently for a number of years,
not sure why everyone didn't immediately recognize the superiority of
plastic insulation immediately?
Now where BX was used, it's cloth covered rubber which hasn't aged as
well, but I haven't had issues with that (yet) and those runs are easy
to replace when I do (exposed in basement)
If you do go with pushbuttons the cover plates for those are all over
the place on eBay, no need to buy expensive reproductions. I've been
watching eBay for toggle (normal modern style) switch and receptacle
cover plates; I like the old .040" or thicker pressed brass ones with
the nice crisp bevels, you can't buy new ones like that unless you pay
"reproduction" prices. The ones in your local hardware store are likely
brass plated steel, and the edges are all rounded. Unfortunately for me
the toggle switch ones are apparently much harder to find.
Now is where I start kicking myself - maybe a year or two ago I was
looking through the electrical stuff at an architectural salvage place
and picked up a couple cases of spec grade toggle switches, and found
cases and cases of the good old brass double toggle switch plates. I
looked and looked for the ones I actually needed and didn't find any.
In retrospect, I should have bought all of them and put them on eBay
three or four at a time, but I just don't think like that (I should
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
I just googled "antique brass toggle switches" and got quite a few
Here's one that looks pretty close
I assume you're in the UK.
The switches in the OP's pictures are definitely of American origin.
The mounting ears and screws would fit todays American switch boxes.
I've seen a lot of old porcelain insulated electrical devices but
not that particular item. I've seen the same sort of porcelain switch
but it had the squared off toggle handle.
I don't think you'll ever find anything like this in the U.S. However,
similar switches are in current use in the U.K. You might be able to
modify your mounting to accomodate such a switch(s). They are rated at the
U.K.'s higher voltage, so should not be an electrical problem here.
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