Lessons from Sandy

Hurricanes in the NorthEast are far from rare, no matter what the global warming people say

This is just the first one recently that made that hook into Ny/NJ but the dip in the jet stream that caused that is pretty normal/

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gfretwell
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People have such a short memory. They're like an ant hill that gets kicked from time to time. O_o

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

If I was doing this, I would replace the single gang handy box the disconnect switch is in with a 4x4. Put a cord grip connector in one of the knockouts with a short 14ga line cord. Put a single receptacle and the disconnect switch in that box with the line side feeding the switch, then the receptacle and the cord connected to the load side.

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gfretwell

Just the boiler insulation or in this case, firebox and plenum insulation.

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clare

innews:k76ccf$foa$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Floodproof? in Manhattan, Long Island, and Queens???? You are dreaming, Harry. Out in the "sticks" they could (and some do) put them up on stilts, but even Noah's Ark may have had a close call with Sandy. It did take down the Bounty.

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clare

Johnstone Supply sells "Kaowoll" to replace the old insulation. ^_^

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The Daring Dufas

In some cases, Mother Nature just "pulled the chain" - now if only the city had the will and the cash to do "urban renewal" properly in those areas.

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clare

Ill bet it wont last very long if it happens again several times. Shrug. Most of those tiny inverters are as I said..useful for small small static loads over a relatively short period of time.

Ive a 400 watt inverter mounted on my Comm rack in my pickup truck and it is used only for small stuff. It struggles with a trouble light. And its a name brand unit. Ive got a 3000 watt Xantrex mounted in the work van, but Ive got two BIG batteries mounted. One for starting, the other for all other needs.

Anybody needs one..Ive got a big..big Heart/Xantrex inveter...6000 watts/7500 surge Id be willing to sell. It came out of a brand new land yhaght that burned partially being delivered to its new owner.

Gunner

-- "President Obama is not going to lose. He will be re-elected. It is those of you who have these grand fantasies of that pip-squeak Romney actually having a chance at winning the election that will have to wake up to reality the day after the election. I hear there is plenty of room in the rest of the world where you can reside and establish new citizenship. Kirby Grant,

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Gunner

If they actually follow the FEMA rules, all of the Jersey shore houses will be built on pilings when they put them back. If Jersey is like NOLA they will allow them to ignore the law, they will build back at grade and we will buy them new houses ,... again... when the next storm comes.

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gfretwell

You mean KAOWOOL - it isRockwool. You need to get rid of the Asbestos first - and while you are into the project that far you may just as well get rid of the old "dragon" and put in a real furnace.

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clare

Even houses on pilings didn't withstand the storm in many cases. How tall do you make the pilings? And how well do you crossbrace them?

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clare

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Lots O folks is PO rite now an aint gots no money FO no new stuff. O_o

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The Daring Dufas

Houses at the beach here are about 14 feet above the sand and the pilings are 20 feet or so in the ground. For that storm up there being

8-9 feet up would have been plenty (pretty standard for a piling house so you can park your car under the house). This is not supposed to be habitable space and FEMA flood insurance will not pay if everything under the house washes away, yet people still do make bonus rooms down there, knowing they are expendable. You can see this in action in that Gilchrist house I linked a few times. Water went over that island about 15 feet high. The finished floor level still got wet but it wasn't blown away. The grade level was wiped clean as it was designed..
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gfretwell

Steel and salt water are not a good mix.

Pilings are generally 8x8 2.50 CCA wood or reinforced concrete. The house is usually pretty well fastened to the pilings. In my friend's house, they actually extend pilings to the top of the walls on the perimeter and the walls are built around the pilings

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gfretwell

Tuscaloosa was hurt pretty badly a couple of years ago. First the Democrats got sent packing, a couple of months later Auburn won the national championship, then the tornadoes hit.

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krw

Steel and salt water don't go all that well together.

Don't believe it.

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krw

Me and JH did a couple of jobs down in T Town last Summer and we could clearly see the path the tornadoes took as we traveled down the highways in the area. O_o

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote in news:risf98hn095cjvig7r1k0k30k09jo2eqj3@

4ax.com:

I'm not an electrician, so I will really need to parse that properly. In addition, I have to examine the wiring I have carefully, since there is an "on-off" switch on the furnace that is between the furnace and a junction box that feeds both the switch and furnace as well as the thermostat and the damper relay. This junction box (A) is where we replaced the romex feeding into it with a wire and plug. When that was connected to the car inverter, the whole shebang worked properly, thermostat and all. There is another switch at the stairs that looks like the switch for killing an older furnace. I'll have to test whether that switch does anything. Stairs and breakerbox are far from each other at diagonally apposed corners of the basement.

I was thinking that I would wire a cord and plug into the above junction box (A). Then place a single gang handy box near the junction box from which box A is fed. Wire that new box up with outlets that (separately) get fed by the old romex and by new romex that gets fed from the generator I just bought (Honda EU2000i) - expensive but quiet, and it should be sufficient for fridge/freezer plus furnace and a few lights or laptops. The genrator would then be grounded through the housewiring grounds to the grounding rod put in when we upgraded the electrical panel.

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Han

Gunner wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I bought a generator, small one, as detailed in a reply to gfretwell. The inverter might still be used to charge laptops, or just for the laptops when we travel.

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Han

The Daring Dufas wrote in news:k78q3o$sm3$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

This storm wasn't all that ferocious, but it was HUGE, and collected half the Atlantic to hurl at the NY and NJ shores. It's now been a little over a week and even in this area where we just lost a whole bunch of trees and pretty much wiring, while an occasional home got some damage, the crews still haven't reconnected every home. It's not expected to be finished before the 9th. NYTimes said that some highrises in lower Manhattan will take months. My former colleague at the VA said the hospital is out of business for at least a month. Many (or perhaps all) samples we collected and stored in a -80C freezer are gonzo. Years of work. I could cry, or go at the chief engineer ...

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Han

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