Indiana house exdplosion update

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? Authorities launched a homicide investigation Monday into the house explosion that killed a young couple and left numerous homes uninhabitable in an Indianapolis neighborhood.

Indianapolis Homeland Security Director Gary Coons made the announcement after meeting with residents of the subdivision where the Nov. 10 blast occurred and shortly after funerals were held for the two victims, who lived next door to the house where investigators believe the explosion originated.

"We are turning this into a criminal homicide investigation," Coons said, marking the first time investigators have called the case criminal.

Search warrants are being executed and official are looking for a white van that was seen in the subdivision on the day of the blast, Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said. Authorities are offering at least a $10,000 reward.

Curry said the investigation is aimed at "determining if there are individuals who may be responsible for this explosion and fire."

Neither he nor Coons took questions or indicated if they had any suspects. No arrests have been made.

Officials have said they believe natural gas was involved in the explosion, which destroyed five homes and left dozens damaged, some heavily. Damage has been estimated at $4.4 million.

Investigators have been focusing on appliances as they search for a cause of the explosion.

Hundreds of people attended the funerals earlier Monday for the couple killed in the explosion, 34-year-old John Dion Longworth and

36-year-old Jennifer Longworth. She was a teacher remembered for knitting gifts for her students, while her husband, an electronics expert, was known as a gardener and nature lover.

Indianapolis Mayor Greg Ballard spoke at the news conference and said he went to the Longworths' funeral and had a hard time coming to peace with what had happened.

"There is a search for truth and there is a search for justice," Ballard said.

The couple lived next door to the house where investigators are focusing. The co-owner of that house, John Shirley, told The Associated Press he had received a text message from his daughter recently saying the furnace in the home, which she shares with her mother and her mother's boyfriend, had gone out.

Shirley's ex-wife, Monserrate Shirley, said her boyfriend, Mark Leonard, had replaced the thermostat recently and the furnace had resumed working.

The couple was away at a casino at the time of the blast. The daughter was staying with a friend, and the family's cat was being boarded.

Monserrate Shirley's attorney, Randall Cable, declined comment on the announcement Monday evening.

Associated Press writer Ken Kusmer contributed to this report from Indianapolis.

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski
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Pretty difficult to deliberately arrange a gas explosion.

Reply to
harry

  1. Lend me your pipe wrench and I'll show you how.
  2. Does not have to be deliberate of bring homicide charges.
Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

I've done it a couple of times, in fact back in the day. After the fire department got done burning the inside of a house for training purposes, we got to set-up a NG blast in ocnjuction with the gas company and then sent our investigator rookies into do the scene. They were in not heavily populated areas and we set it up to blow fairly quickly so it wasn't as impressive as this one, obviously.

Reply to
Kurt Ullman

  1. The facts surrounding the owner of the house have made me suspicious from the gitgo. Absentee owner was estranged husband. House was on the market for a long tome- recently taken off the market. Wife lives with boyfriend and daughter in the house. Nobody home.

'Guido' apparently miscalculated how big a boom a houseful of gas would make.

Refer to 1-- Is Harry really that stupid? It may not be easy to get away with, but it is about the easiest thing in the world to do.

Jim

Reply to
Jim Elbrecht

You can't bring "homicide charges" because "homicide" (the killing of one human being by another) is not, per se, a crime.

In my state, there are five kinds of homicide:

  1. Murder
  2. Manslaughter
  3. Negligent homicide
  4. Justifiable
  5. Excusable

Only the first three are criminal offenses. Here are examples of the differences: Two men on a deer-hunting trip when one shoots and kills the other.

  1. With premeditation, the first hunter simply shoots and kills the second. MURDER
  2. During a heated argument, the second hunter is shot. MANSLAUGHTER.
  3. Hunter one is drunk and improperly handles his gun. NEGLIGENT.
  4. Hunter #2 shoots at #1 first, #1 returns fire killing #2. JUSTIFIABLE.
  5. Hunter #2 jumps from behind bush wearing a deer costume. EXCUSABLE.
Reply to
HeyBub

Ah, this brings back memories. I grew up in a perfectly respectable middle-class neighborhood. But one of the neighbors, who owned a well-known supper club, got sent up after he was convicted of engineering a gas leak ("faulty furnace") explosion that burned down his house. Turned out his restaurant business was in trouble, and he needed the insurance money.

Thirty years later there was another house that blew up and burned in an adjacent community. The homeowner was hospitalized in critical condition and later died from his burns. His girlfriend and daughter weren't home at the time, fortunately. Turned out the homeowner was my former neighbor's son, who was experiencing financial difficulties. He'd gone into the basement to rig the furnace for an explosion/fire, and miscalculated. He didn't get out of the house in time.

Like father, like son...

Reply to
Moe DeLoughan

The redflag to me is boarding the cat. Does anyone board a cat for three days? I don't own a cat, but my friends who do, don't spend the money for a couple of days.

Reply to
Kurt Ullman

I didn't even see that one. Yup-- That alone would likely get me digging.

And now the news says they also moved a car that had been parked on the street for a long time.

Jim

Reply to
Jim Elbrecht

Just remember that I was the first one here to speculate it was done intentionally - for financial reasons.

Did it have "Flowers by Irene" painted on the side?

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What about a search for the American Way?

I'm glad the cat was safe.

Reply to
Home Guy

The gas air mixture has to be right to get a good explosion. This can't be guaranteed before ignition takes place. And a source of ignition has to be provided somehow.

It's a murder like these stupid Hollywood films where the victim is deliberately murdered by dropping an electrical appliance in the bath. Concocted by idiots that know nothing. For idiots that know nothing to watch.

We have an alternative lesser charge of manslaughter over here for death by carelessness.

Reply to
harry

If you have a gas leak in the basement, I garantee that somewhere in the house the mixture will be perfect, and that somewhere will change over time as more gas fills the house.

The occupants of the house probably turned down the thermostat to somewhere between 60 and 65f before they left.

This would be a clever way to set off the explosion.

The furnace is working, the house is sitting at 70f. You set the thermostat to 65, you create your gas leak near the furnace, and you get everyone out and go to the casino where you'll be spending the night. It will take hours for the house temp to fall to 65, and all the while the house is filling with gas. You turn off the water heater (or dial it down to some low temp so it doesn't come on).

The house cools, the thermostat kicks in, the furnace ignition comes on, then BOOM.

Reply to
Home Guy

And, so what if it doesn't "go boom!" but just burns to the ground? The (presumed) objective to have a reason to file an insurance claim has been achieved...

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Reply to
dpb

The only difficult part would be trying to arrange it to blow at a specific time.

Harry K

Reply to
Harry K

Easily done with a common barbeque grill propane tank. Don't ask me how I know this. ^_^

TDD

Reply to
The Daring Dufas

Actually it would be VERY easy to set up a "deliberate" gas explsion.

Reply to
clare

If I wanted to blow up a house with gas I would calculate the gas flow from an open pipe, figure out how long to leave it open to get the required mixture, and set up an electrical ignitor triggered by a timer set to the required time. Dead simple - and almost fool-proof. Now I'm sure Harry could screw it up using british technology - and a lucas ignition system.

Reply to
clare

Didn't Arnold do this exact thing in the movie - ERASER -

disconnect the hose from the stove, turn the mechanical thermo to high - so it would cycle almost immediately - then run out -

Reply to
ps56k

Even that is simple with a couple of timers, a remote valve, and an ignitor. Don't try it with british equipment though.

Reply to
clare

Appliance timer set to come on when you want the explosion to occur.

Set timer on gas oven to come on about to come on five minutes earlier.

Plugged into timer is igniting device.

TRIVIAL for investigators to detect.

I know how to make it nearly undetectable but I won't tell.

Reply to
Wes Groleau

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