We had a driveway put in and got a verbal estimate for $2000. No
written estimate provided despite numerous requests. Now the job is
not complete to what we expected, yet price charged is estimate
amount. Without a written estimate do I have a leg to stand on?
Isn't it the contractors responsibility if there is a dispute?
Ok...first of all...
Estimate.....not quote...estimate....look it up. There IS a difference.
If the job is not complete, then dont pay. If its complete, pay them. You
agreed to allow them to do the work, and they did....you are not giving the
full story here. What did they NOT do that they said they would?
| > We had a driveway put in and got a verbal estimate for $2000.
| > written estimate provided despite numerous requests. Now the
| > not complete to what we expected, yet price charged is
| > amount. Without a written estimate do I have a leg to stand
| > Isn't it the contractors responsibility if there is a
| Ok...first of all...
| Estimate.....not quote...estimate....look it up. There IS a
| If the job is not complete, then dont pay. If its complete, pay
| agreed to allow them to do the work, and they did....you are
not giving the
| full story here. What did they NOT do that they said they
That's right, plus, a verbal contract IS an enforceable contract
in most states. Are there witnesses to the verbal contract? For
YOU, of course.
Given the clarity and precision with which most speakers
of "english" speak, depending on the other guy to have heard
what you think you said, (or vice versa) depending on a
verbal contract for anything more complicated than
"Pick me up tomorrow at noon." is just stupid. If you care
about the details, get them in writing. It's not JUST
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:00:26 -0500, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
This door swings both ways. The OP could claim he only got an
estimate; came home one day and found his drive torn up and the
contractor pouring concrete.
There should always be a written agreement spelling out AT LEAST the
scope/quality of work, the price and the start/completion date.
you are all right.. and I feel really stupid at this point. Estimate
or quote.. were were given price of $2000 for the driveway. The
contractor had an emergency so sent a rep to come and scope the job.
The driveway was to consist of apx 45 feet from garage to base of
drive, of which 15 feet would be concrete and the balance fill and
gravel to complete drive to access garage. The problem lies in the
rep apparently not passing on the entire scope of the project to the
contractor.. or so he now says. This is rural Indiana and I was
working with someone new to the field and thought I was going to get a
fair shake.. yes, read "stupid". I asked at least 4 times for the
written quote - he said he emailed me a copy but I didn't get it and
asked again for it to be mailed. Now also note this started with
quote in June and work done in September as I wasn't in a hurry.. just
'before winter'. The problem is I thought the price was for the
entire 45' drive and he says the $2000 is for the 15 feet of concret
area only... left a large drop off to the rest of the drive which we
could not drive on to the concrete. Plus, they didn't secure the
retaining wall and it is now curved and wavy and extends 2" beyond
garage wall - looks terrible. I was hoping someone would know if the
contractor was obligated to quote in writing. I told him if I had had
the estimate I would have know we weren't talking the same thing.
Maybe I'll just go the lawyer route.. I think it's worth the consult
1st off, look up estimate in the dictionary:
To calculate approximately (the amount, extent, magnitude, position, or
value of something.
This isn't the 90s, a hand shake/verbal agreement means nothing these
days, you should have gotten it in writing, oh well to late now, have you
called the original guy up, see if he can dump some gravel for you, gravel
is cheap anyway....
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