incandescent light bulb phase-out in the U.S. (are flood bulbs exempt?)

The federal government is banning incandescent bulbs over 100 watts this January

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Does anyone know for sure if flood lamp bulbs (such as PAR30) used in outdoor light fixtures will be exempt? I'd like to know if I need to stock up on the 120watt PAR30 flood bulbs that are used in some outdoor motion sensitive lighting fixtures.

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techman41973
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The article is pretty clear, 120W is outside the range:

The efficiency standards will start with 100-watt bulbs in January 2012 and end with 40-watt bulbs in January 2014.

Also note that these are efficiency standards. Incandescent is not banned.

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despen

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techman41973

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The only bulbs being phased out starting 1/1/12 are the standard 100 watt A-line types. PAR30 bulbs aren't on the exempt list, but PAR types aren't mentioned in EISA except for the BPAR (blown glass) type along with R BR and ER types.

There's a good summary at:

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Terry McGowan

Reply to
TKM

But since it bans lights that don't make the efficiency standard and incandescents by their nature (and physics and...) can't make the efficiency standard, they are banning incandescent lights by any definition of the word used outside of DC.

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Kurt Ullman

No need to stock up on old technology, energy-saving halogens to the rescue.

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Michael Angelo

All of these restrictions will be reversed after the next election, when the American people tell Washington that they can make some decisons for themselves, including their choice of a lightbulb.

James

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James

Why is requiring more efficient light bulbs any different than requiring more efficient refrigerators or cars that get better gas mileage?

Terry McGowan

Reply to
TKM

sure use more power who cares.

we can just build some more nuke power plants, they are perfectly safe.

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bob haller

Too late. I've already piled up about 400 60W clear bulbs.

Halogens are great for some uses. I don't like them where the bulb is part of the looks of the fixture, which almost all of mine are. They're blinding if directly in the eyes. Shadows seem worse, too.

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krw

If you pay 10 cents/kilowatt and get 1000 hours life per bulb, those 400 bulbs will cost you $2,400 for electricity. Personally I'd use CFL or LED bulbs and pocket the $1,800 savings....but that's just me. ;-)

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Michael Angelo

Keep up with the news:

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Philips Lighting (NYSE: PHG) is launching a new line of incandescent light bulbs designed to meet federal energy efficiency standards that will take force in the US over the next few years.

Reply to
despen

Absolutely irrelevant. CFLs are *UGLY* and LEDs ain't ready for primetime (not that CFLs are, for that matter).

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krw

America is now being run by communists. No matter who gets elected, if they are either democrat or republican, they will be commies. Unless people vote outside these parties, we can all kiss America goodbye. Whats next, a ban on toilets, or maybe a ban on anything and everything that burns fuel. Hell, maybe these commies will ban everyone from living after they reach the age of 60, to solve the Social Security problems. There are European countries that have more freedoms than we now have in America.

And if you think you can order your light bulbs from a foreign country over ebay, I'm sure the US govt will start a program to arrest or even imprison people caught by the postal workers who will use detectors to detect packages with light bulbs. If you think this is too far fetched, think again. They are already doing this sort of thing with people who import tobacco to try to avoid the outrageous taxes they put on tobacco products now.

Just wait till they begin putting "chips" in all newborn babies so they can track every movement they make in life, via GPS..... YES, THIS IS COMING! Mark my word.....

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jw

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posted often at a.h.r

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bud--

With the exception of the oven, refrigerators and the dryer, I don't have a single incandescent bulb in the house.

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Michael Angelo

LOL! Not as *UGLY* as your electric bill.

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Ted

yep that law requiring seatbelts and air bags wasnt necessary, nore the fuel economy standards for vehicles

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bob haller

That's fine if the light and operating charecteristics are OK with you. Me, I use CFL where they make sense. And that sure isn't all over my house. They just do not produce light that is acceptable in all environments. I figure that most people are smart enough to figure out where to use them to save money where appropriate and don't need the govt forcing them on us where they don't belong.

I'll predict right now that some time next year, this phase-out of most incandescent light bulbs will come back to bite Congress big time. It will be one more example of what the people don't want, which is more govt running their lives. The consequences will be it will help make Obama a one term president and cost the Dems more seats in Congress.

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trader4

have you seen the republican partys ideas.

elminate the minimum wage completely

end medicare as we know it

end social security as we know it for anyone not currently collecting benefits

cut taxes on the super wealthy, including dropping the capital gains tax rate to zero.

all of these will put more tax burdens on the middle class

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bob haller

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