Yes, but out cable company sucks even more. DTV is still better. I
think every cable company and SAT company is on the crap list for
Now that you bring it up, I just sent an email to complain about the
sports fee. I told them to eliminate the fee and the sports channels.
I don't watch them and I don't want to subsidize them. Wonder what
the reply will be.
true, of the 880+ channels they tout we watch around 12 channels. you
cannot believe how irritating it is to keep stumbling over shpping,
sports, and ?? excuses to have cameras on some idiot. At least it's
possible to make up a 'personal' list, to make the TV Guide short.
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:12:20 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
Being able to add and delete channels on the list could be improved if
they would allow you to just delete a channel from the lineup without
having to go in to a menu mode to do it. The remote should just have
a delete button.
I've not seen that. They have recently added some HD channels though.
With all the stuff there is to watch in my free time, my only choices
are HD. Aside from the news, 99% of what we watch is pre-recorded so
we can skip the commercials.
Aside from the news, 99% of what we watch is pre-recorded so
I HEAR YOU!
We too rarely watch live TV....
even the national news is recorded so I dont miss it...
I will start watching about 10 minutes late, and skip thru commercials
till the end. doing this gets tons of tme back for my life.
My first DVR was the original dishplayer, I upgraded to TIVO and am
very happy with it. ROCK SOLID BUG FREE OPERATION:)
Something dish was never able to provide:(
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:12:20 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
I get about 20 channels via my antenna. Of those 20, I watch 2 of them
regularly, and may go to another one or two for the local news. Most of
what I see on tv is garbage programming anyhow, with far too many
commercials. Even if there is a decent program on, having to sit thru
15 minutes of insulting commercials, particularly insulting to the
elderly (which I am), I really lose interest in the program and often
just shut off the tv. I have no interest in cable or satellite tv
whatsoever. I have seen it other places and it's just more of the same
junk and a lot more commercials.
I have to be really bored to spend much time in front of the tv, which
is normally in the cold months. But even then, I'm not addicted to tv
enough to spend money for it. While a lot of people are spending close
to $100 a month for their cable/sat tv, I probably avarage $10 a month
to buy DVD movies, which are usually those on closeout at Walmart for
$5, or the really cheap VCR tapes at second hand stores, where I can get
a whole movie for a buck or less. At least with them, I can watch them
without being interrupted every few minutes with commercials, and can
pause them when I have to make dinner or need to do other stuff. Life
is too short to waste 25% of each hour watching idiot commercials trying
to sell me some rip-off life insurance or get me to take viagra or
promote drugs that have so many serious side effects I would not give
them to anything except a rat that I want to poison.
DTV thinks the only reason people sign up for service is for sports.
I have no need for any of the sports stations or the holy rollers or the
non stop infomercials.
Get rid of them all and save some bandwidth.
I have a satellite dish. The LNB (bit in the middle of the dish) is
an amplifier/frequency changer device powered from the TV/Adaptor box.
If you want more than one TV you can get an LNB with multiple outlets,
I have seen up to four,
You will need to decide what satellite to point your dish at.
You can get an el-cheapo satellite meter to detect the signals and set
up your own dish very cheaply. Almost impossible to do this by
guesswork/trial and error.
The dish setting is very critical.
You will have to find out what size dish you need.
The further North you are, the bigger dish you need (further from geo-
You will then beable to receive hundreds of channels.
Even Al quaeda has a channel (Aljazeera).
Chinese Japanese French Brit German Russian.
All in English.
Makes a change from the Hollywood/Fox News lies.
See some different lies.
Snow on the dish/LNB can cause a signal problem if it freezes on .
BTW there are both free and encoded (pay) channels.
The pay is only slightly more interesting.
The footprint of the satellite is pretty tight these days, if you want
something exotic, you need a really big dish.
There are ways to illegally break encoded channels too.
There are good documentaries/news on free foreign channels (usually
with an agenda.)
You get get arrays with multiple LNBs that can work off more then one
A bit more difficult to set up.
Also you an can dish motor drives to move the dish from one satellite
Then instead of a hundred channels of shite, you can get thousands.
I've heard their internet sucks too.
Things heating up around here.
I have access to Comcast cable with triple play and also have phone
lines on FIOS.
FIOS rep was actually knocking at door while I was reading this thread
yesterday. I brushed him off but later he came back down the street
while I was doing yard work and I talked to him.
Of course the beauty of FIOS is a single optical cable to each house and
Comcast splits signals so when everybody comes home in the evening
internet will slow down. He also mentioned that Google is getting into
the business and will also used fiber optics.
Competition is good. My neighbor across the street switches back and
forth from FIOS to Comcast taking special offers and switching when they
My Mom and mother in law have FIOS for TV, telephone, and Internet.
Last year during hurricane Sandy when the power went out (for two weeks)
the internet and TV service auto shut down at the demarc box in the
house so as not to tax the little 7 amp hour back up battery used for
phone service. That little battery lasted less than a day using it for
the telephone only. Cellphone service was down, so no telephone service
of any type for them until the power was turned back on two weeks later.
Verizon also has been a pain in neck in getting the monthly bill
straight. They kept "forgetting" what each had signed up for and what
discounts and promos they had, requiring a monthly phone call to their
billing people every month to straighten it out.
I don't think Verizon service has ever been very good. I was having
repeated problems with their old copper lines and sometimes it would
take a week to fix. Don't think service is better with FIOS. I've got
a generator so the FIOS line and battery put in to replace the copper
would not be a problem. Comcast service is somewhat better and
apparently less problem to get initial offers reinstated when they expire.
I think that is just aging infrastructure and no incentive to fix it.
When Sprint was providing dial tone here they did an extensive build
out with fiber a backbone in the ground and buried new copper to the
Dmark at the house. Our POTS is rock solid now and it is Comcast that
is the one that is down all the time. I ditched cable years ago for
Dish and DSL but my wife still has it at the club and it still sucks.
On Apr 27, 3:14 pm, email@example.com wrote:
I had FIOS, for phone and internet:( TV hadnt rolled out yet. Phone
had troubles that took 3 months to fix, finally traced to a bad router
at their central office, the back up battery failed at 3 monts old,
they wanted me to pay for a new battery.. I refused and finally got a
new one, topok 2 weeks of their box alarming . in a new fios served
area the calls, salespeople visits at dinner time and junk mail
approaches harrasement. I was under contract and they said its against
company policy to let you out even if the service doesnt work......
when my contract was up I dropped fios and moved my remaining lines
back to copper. sent them registered letters to quit calling me to
sell me anything......
it was peaceful for awhile and the calls started again so I dropped my
business line outgoing call package. the idiots cancelled my business
So I dropped everything verizon and had a lawyer send them a letter to
never contact me again...
When the calls and sales visits started again, I called and complained
loudly to have all the fios stuff and copper removed, or I would cut
it down myself.
They dragged their feet but did finally remove it, the tech said
others were having theirs removed too.
the verizon road techs were great but their office staff sucks, are
unfriendly and abusive....
verizon wired is shrinking bad one day they will sell off the rest of
the the wired side.....
a geat example of rotten service, be on the phone with a rep, at 5pm
the phones automatically get shut off.......
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