Car manufacturers watch the pennies. I have a Genesis and they come with 3 years of maintenance. At each of the oil changes I had they changed the filter. If they said to skip it the argument would have more validity. They say change and pay for it so I will too not that I passed the three years and pay.
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mike
How many owners manuals do NOT specify the oil change volume both with the oil filter also being changed and the oil change volume without the filter?
How many owners manuals do NOT specify different maintenance intervals based on the type of service (for example the severity of driving conditions such as "dusty conditions" and/or the total number of accumulated time and/or total number of accumulated miles)?
I have my 1990 Infiniti Q45 service manual in my hands at this very moment.
Page MA-5 shows a one to one oil change and filter interval while the very next page MA-6 shows an "R" (for replace) on the oil filter every other oil change and the air filter gets its "R" every fourth oil change interval (the intervals being tabled under distance or time "whichever comes first").
I can check others but you must have seen similar in maintenance schedules.
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mike
I'm a retired accountant. I've pushed paper my whole life. And why would it matter what I did before Sarbanes Oxley?
I've been retired for a long time now and ready to move on.
The only thing that matters is what happens moving forward. Unless I cooked the accounts receivables in the past which I didn't do.
Why do you bring up unrelated things for a simple oil question?
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mike
I follow the guidelines in the service manual that came with the car.
Following that book I've been driving my 1990 as my DD but since you're worried I will tell you that for insurance against attacks by tigers I've also carried an amethyst talisman in the trunk next to the manual.
Haven't been attacked by a tiger yet so like you say it must be working.
Other than replacing the fuel controller and fuel pump from that same trunk a few times already and having to jack up the engine in front to replace the plugs that Q45 still works fine using just the maintenance service interval recommendations of an oil filter every other oil change as specified in that three inch thick service manual that came in the trunk with every vehicle sold and which stows neatly next to the talisman to ward off evil spirits.
Haven't had to replace the engine yet so like you say it must be working.
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mike
Why don't you believe what is found in many service manuals and what I have in my hands right now? I have other service manuals but why would I even look in my other service manuals if you won't believe what I am telling you to your face is in my 1990 Q45 service manual (one came with every car).
BTW, don't know who Arlin is but do you want me to take a photograph of my three inch thick green paperback service manual which came with my 1990 Q45?
Tell me where to upload it for you and I'll upload for you page MA-6 which shows a "R" replacement for the oil change every service interval and an "R" replacement for the oil filter every other service interval and an "R" replacment (with "I" inspections in between) for the air filter every fourth service interval (based on kilometers/miles and/or months, whichever comes first).
But why don't you first look up what you make up before you spew it anyways?
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 00:03:05 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com posted for all of us to digest...
Who recommends AstroGlide?
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Jim Joyce
Remember the old oil filter trick where you just use a roll of toilet paper? I thought I'd never see that again but it turned up on an episode of Garage Squad.
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 20:50:41 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...
Pleated or non-pleated? Cardboard or steel end-caps? He filter level is <0.
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Jim Joyce
Was that the link that you intended?
From that article: The cheapest insurance for your car?s engine is frequent oil changes ? with a new filter at every oil change. That prevents contamination of your new, clean oil from anything that might pass out of your old filter and ensures that new oil is as efficient as it can be in its job of lubricating engine parts, reducing wear and tear, and keeping operating temperatures in a healthy range.
If you?re wondering how often you should change your oil filter, keep things simple by changing your oil filter every time you change your engine oil.
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Looks like it's a new filter at every oil change. Seems simple enough.
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Don't believe that. Arlen was never an accountant.
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 07:15:49 +1100, %% posted for all of us to digest...
Evil twin? It's Arlen he's whatever he wants to be to suit his purpose.
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Ed Pawlowski
I've owned 25-30 cars. Every one specified oil and filter so that is what i do. If you have different, fine follow it. Simple.
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Ed Pawlowski
Nah, Mike is polite. Arlen does not like at all and thinks I post under at least five names.
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Scott Dorsey
No, you're not following the guidelines in the service manual. Because if your car was made in 1990 then the oil described in the service manual is no longer being manufactured.
Is the current oil better or worse than the oil that was originally specified? It's likely much better. But you don't really know. All you can do is drive and hope.
There are some cases in which the current oil formulations may be problematic for older vehicles. 1990 isn't old enough to worry about, but some people drive vehicles where they might worry.
--scott
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Ed Pawlowski
Considering the TP shortage we had I'd not be surprised if people were unraveling filters to use in its place.
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 16:33:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest...
Maybe he's taking his meds. He has me blocked and other forensic details lead me to believe it's Arlen. You noted a discrepancy along with a different vehicle so you may be right.
Whatever, he can get blood out of stone with his posts.
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