Cascade has dropped their commercial dishwasher detergent sold by
ReStockit and Amazon. Finish still makes one that works but it's very
difficult to purchase and quite expensive per load (about 72¢).
I've been looking at homemade alternatives as the retail dishwasher
detergents don't work well <http://www.jillcataldo.com/phosphatedetergents .
There are a lot of recipes out there. The one that seems to be the most
widely acclaimed to work well is this one:
76 ounces Borate Powder (20 Mule Team Borax) (Walmart)
55 ounces Washing Soda (Arm and Hammer) (Walmart) Not baking soda.
1 1/3 TSP cup (Home Depot) Be sure to get the real TSP.
4 ounces Citric Acid (Amazon) Buy in 5 pound bag.
2 cups Vaseline Intensive Care moisturizing beads (Walmart)
64 ounces Canning Salt or Kosher Salt 4 pounds
Looks like a lot of work. When I bought my new Kitchen Air DW, it came
with a sample of Cascade Platinum. It is absolutely fantastic!
Everything comes out perfect, most things look as good as the day they
were new. About 24¢ a load from Amazon, few pennies more at other stores.
When I have perfection already, I'm not going to mix all of that stuff
That's an option too. But while I would be fine with that, I need to
make this child-proof and spouse-proof, so anything I put under the sink
needs to be pre-mixed. I could mix in the TSP and put it back in the
Cascade or Finish box (which I did prior to buying the Cascade
commercial product) but as long as I'm having to mix something up I may
as well do it from scratch and make up a big batch.
None of the currently available consumer dishwasher detergents work well
without doing something like you do with the TSP. Finish commercial is
one option but it's difficult to purchase. I guess I could also buy
Bubble Bandit, but it's very expensive <http://www.bubblebandit.com/ .
How hard is your water? If your water is soft, any decent detergent will
work. It is in locales with hard water where phosphates are needed to keep
glassware from getting covered with lime deposits.
Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
Thank you for starting this thread. I learned and I have ordered four
packages of the Bubble Bandit for $49.80 for my mother. In New Jersey her
water is very hard. Her glasses are all covered with lime deposits. The
sterling silver has a dingy look.
The rep at Bubble Bandit did recommend running the dishwasher empty with it
three to four times to clean the deposits off the insides of the
dishwasher. My mom says it is covered inside.
Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
I'm about to mix up a batch of dishwasher detergent to see how it goes.
We have hard water too, and the consumer brand dishwasher detergents
don't really work.
I have plenty of sodium carbonate from the pool store (soda ash) but I
depleted the regions borate supply (from the three closest Walmarts) for
my pool. I was going to go to the next closest Walmart this morning to
buy some, but, due to protesters, I decided to wait. To think, I voted
for this guy twice and then he disrupts my plans!
I ordered citric acid from Amazon. I need it anyway and I was buying it
in tiny packets before <http://www.zojirushi.com/products/cdk .
I was disappointed in several of the commercial DW detergents and
started adding TSP. Then I decided to try the CostCo DW "pods" and
found that they work quite well. Don't even bother with the TSP
Before mixing up somethng with quite a lot of ingredients, you might try
adding a little TSP to whatever dishwasher deteregent you normally use. I
have found that running the dishwasher empty with a little citric acid
(Lemi-Fresh) before using it once or twice as directed with a regular load
works really well. The citric acid is also not toxic so you can keep it
around without taking extraordinary precaitioins.
As long as I have to mix stuff I'd rather just do it from scratch and
save money. The homemade stuff is about half the price of what I was
paying for the Cascade professional product.
Citric acid must be one of the most expensive powders when repackaged.
In a bulk 5 pound bag it's about 20¢/ounce. In little packets it's about
$2 per ounce.
a 'heads up'....
Years ago an outlet chain called Lucky's grocery stores carried an
excellent dishwashing product called FINISH. We had found that unlike
Cascade, in our water and system [plus Jet-Dri] produced spotless, clean
glassware. So we ecstatic when the price was dropped to half as a special.
and being discontinued at the store. We stocked up.
Then, upon using the product the glassware suddenly came out with what
looked like water spots all over them. Very irritating because this was
wedding glassware [goblets, wine glases, etc, imported from Sweden, and
not replaceable, as also discontinued] and has special value. Wash again,
but the spots NEVER came off. Looked like calcium deposits. I tried
everything including mechanically trying to remove to no avail. Later
found out that the dishwashing product had ETCHED the glassware !! Upon
calling Finish found out that 'old' shelf life product will sometimes etch
glass! Say what ?! They claim that they had stopped shipping to Lucky's
years before and that product was probably Lucky's attempt to dump their
stock, clear it out. But, according to Finish employee, old product has
the ability to ruin glass.
So heads up.
That's why I love Amazon and Google Shopping Express. Free shipping and
stuff comes the same day for GSE, and two days at the most for Amazon.
And of course lower prices for most items.
I might have ordered the borate for my pool from Amazon, even though
they charge shipping for it, had I known they carried it. I did make
four trips, to different Walmarts, for the borate for the pool because I
needed such a large quantity.
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