Broken DVDR

Jul 22, 2025 Last reply: 7 months ago 10 Replies

I don't think I posted abou this problem to SER before because it was just a good story the lsst time but the new chapter starts at the asterisks*** Giving the old chapter for the newly added ng.



Old chapter. Bought a Kenwood DVDR, 3875 iirc with Hardrive about 2010. Used it heavily, recording and watching abougt 3 hours each a day, plus a lot of live watching, until 2024 until it broke completely, wouldn't light up.



Bought another one just like it on Ebay, then opened the broken one. Thought it was the power supply of course. Didn't have a meter yet, but looking and found a button, a little block button pointing up from a



1/4" square (with rivets on each corner). Just like Alice in Wonderland or Dorothy on her trip to Oz, I was compelled to push the button, and the DVDR lit up and seemed to work completely. nothing mentioned about it in the owners manual or the wiring diagram or the Repair manual for a similar device by Kenwood. The button was labeled Reset Sw. and it did. I guess they keep these things secret for a reason.


***So I'd installed the "new" one and I've been recording and watching it for maybe 9 months when the picture and sound disappeared on what I was watching, and on every other channel at the same time. Came back a few seconds later. Repeated that a few times over the next day. Then went blank and didn't come back except for a striped red and black screeen for a few seconds. Then all black while the timer kept recording three times a day. They were all black too. (I could still play my prior recordigns and I have about 50 hours of them before I have to put back the original DVDR.)



What does this indicate to you? A failed part? What kind of part? A cold solder connection? Do you think I can find it by looking? Where a part is soldered in? Or a broken trace? Something else? Do y ou think there is a second push-button for this situation?



I don't remember if there is a separate tuner board, but I presume that is the place to look the most. It has both analog and digital but I don't think I have analog to test it with.



New chapter. Then today, I forgot that it doesn't work and turned it on for the 5PM televison and it's been working fine for 30 minutes. All stations of course. Does that change what you said two paragraphs up?


micky snipped-for-privacy@fmguy.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

May need cleaning. Ants, bugs, love electronics and can short out things. I regularly need to blow out my laptop to keep it running. I bought it second hand after a company used it for 6 years. I'm going on year 16 which is a long time for a laptop that is used more like a desktop and always on. Very stable.

BTW, after cleaning let it sit for a while before turning it on if any moisture was used to clean it. Even a damp rag clens up well but will short it all out if you power it on before it fully dries.

For smaller electronics and closed cases with ventilation holes sometimes a can of air will do wonders.

I'll try all that you said. I have't had screens in my windows for over

10 years and bugs have been known to come in. There were stinkbugs one summer 8 years ago and I keep finding them in piles of papers, that seem not to have moved in 8 years but are still alive.) But it will take a while, because a) if I dont' watch the 50 hours already recorded before I disconnect the machine, I'll never watch them. (OTOH, I can't watch anything new. It worked for 40 minutes this morning and then stopped just as Beaver was going to have confess to being arrested for stealing a rowboat (which he didn't actually steal). But I still wanted to know what happened to him and I won't know for another 120 or so episodes and they repeat it again. and b) it has a bunch of wires connected and I have to take photos or make notes so I connect the new (old) one right.

Multiple streaming services have Beaver available to watch whenever you feel like it. That seems much easier than trying to deal with a broken DVDR.

Not to me. a) And sufficient in itself, I would still need a recorder for when I want to record something, The last thing I want to do is drag my computer into this stuff. b) and the computer's not connected to any of the TV's in other rooms, so how would I get the streaming video into my televisions in other rooms, the bedroom, kitchen, basement, and bathroom. The DVDR is already connected to all of them. c) I never bought records or CD's or cassettes. I just want to listen to what the radio provides, or the TV provides. Sometimes I record it but I let other people decide what's available. (I do occastionlly look for something on youtube.) Beaver is what I want now because that's what's on. When he's not on, I'll want something else. d) Having to find something on a streaming service would be a pain. e) I did have one for a few months before the election, in order to watch MSNBC. It came with lots of movies and tv shows in some system I found too much trouble to use. I think I watched all of three hours in

4 months and they weren't shows I really wanted, just the best I could quickly find on it. I'm pretty sure it was Sling. Don't know if any of the others are easier to use. f) The airways are free. The first DVDR lasted about 15 years before it broke, and it's fixed now. g) Dealing with a broken TV or DVDR is a pleasure in itself. When I lived in Brooklyn, NY, I used to find broken tvs on the street. One time I found one on a Sunday just before I picked up a young woman to go to the Bronx Zoo. Then we went out to dinner. When I took her home she wanted me to come in, but I had looked forward all day to trying to fix the tv, so I went home (and made her mad at me). But it turned out the TV was not broken. I was disappointed. How can you fix it when it's not broken? That's why I read two ng's with "repair" in their name.

Jim, I like you, I do, I read your posts diligently, and they are always well-written and never stupid, and I'm not annoyed at this either, but it might be worth pointing out this is the third thing about me you suggested I change. Another was that I don't collapse all my threads and have them expand when someone posts in them. And another was that I make my motel reservations on the phone without seeing the place, or something like that. Maybe it's good that you give helpful suggestions

-- I mean that. It could just show that you care about people. And most of the threads here start with people asking for help so it's consistent with that -- but no one else gives suggestions quite as unrelated to the thread topic as you do. Or maybe it's that they would need me to change something about myself more important, more about me, than how I drill a hole or what I use to glue two things together. Or it's something about how you phrase it that makes me feel I've been a disappointment in your eyes for not taking your advice. But none of this will in any way discourage me from reading your posts, and I will continue to do so diligently (except that I don't read AHR itself as thoroughly as I used to since the horde invaded.)

And I've overdone the answer, but it came out quickly so I let it. .

That puzzles me, but I've read ahead so I know what's coming. :)

True, but you wouldn't need a recorder for anything that's available to be streamed, and these days, the vast majority of programming is probably available somewhere, especially if it's older stuff that I know you like. Older programming is usually ad-supported, just like OTA TV, so there wouldn't be any additional costs to you.

I'm not sure what that's in reference to. I mentioned streaming and you mentioned a computer. Are they related?

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Well, yes, it does take a few seconds, usually less than 10, so it's not immediate. The trade-off is that you'd have access to hundreds of thousands of programs, and you could treat a lot of it as a "channel", just as you do now. Tune to a specific channel and let it play.

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Thank you. I'll snip there. :)

Have you yet pushed that hidden button?

Bulging Capacitors? Check this out.

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I'm hoping that will work, but the last time the thing was totally dead. This still plays what's been recorded. Maybe I can find a second button. I'll let you know in a few weeks.

NIce video. It might be obvious, but I never before thought of cutting off the extra leads with a nail clipper.

Use one you don't depend on for good cutting. Or use a real wire cutter.

My first big screen TV was a 50" plasma TV I got one free off Craigslist TV that did not work. Opened it up, and replaced a dozen bulging caps, and used it for years. Cost was less than $10. The were a lot of bad caps made back in that era. I had a PC motherboard replaced under warranty for this problem. It is nice that the failure is so easily identified.

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