anyone know how to find out who reported my house to a neighborhood services department for city of phx?

[MRS. CLEAN]

I got a noise complaint about my dogs. It was unfounded. I interviewed

11 houses surrounding me, taking statements, then providing my contact information if there's any dog noises from MY yard. I made sure all three dogs were licensed and well behaved.

The senile old complainants called code enforcement, I received the proverbial three warnings about a dog that wasn't mine over the course of 12 months. And, the final warning said, "We have advised your neighbor that he can sue you if he's still displeased." At that point, I let all my neighbors know that I'd leave him penniless if he took such unfounded action against my dogs.

I was, and remain, very careful to keep the dogs inside when I was gone and to watch constantly because my fear was poison over the fence. Things settled down when my neighbor's daughter moved out of her mother's house and took Sierra with her. At no time did Sierra's barking ever bother me. I considered it a warning to would be criminals, and felt safe when she was barking. Occasionally, Sierra visits and the barking starts all over again. I am sure to reward her with a pig ear. The only thing worse would be no Sierra. She has a rod iron gate which allows her to see and bark at everything on the street.

Dogs are a deterrent. My neighbors should be pleased that I am willing to go through the trouble of having, caring, and feeding the animals that keep THEIR homes safe.

[George]

I read your post two different ways. You say that you are careful about controlling the dogs and then you mention that the dog barks at everything on the street.

Dogs are a deterrent but within reason. I don't want to be in "alert mode" for hours on end each day as a dog barks at every car, squirrel and falling leaf.

[Banty]

IME some neighbors are one way; some are the other, and some are kinda squirelly-in-between.

Now I have no problems between me and *any* of my neighbors. I do have an immediate neighbor who are pretty sloppy with their dogs, motorized things of all sorts (quads, etc.), and general clutter. But we've been able to work out things because I'm willing to overlook certain things (choosing my battles) and we're both willing to help each other out and hear each other out. The neighbor I *used to* have on the other side - - well, their kids were golden, their dog was golden (even though it was black), and to them every conversation was about showing the World that Nobody's Gonna Push them around. They moved away :)

I think that the first tack to take is to talk to neighbors and work things out. But it can be apparent pretty quick which ones aren't amenable to any of that, and they have to be dealt with via laws and ordinances. Beleive me, there's no magic wand of niceness that will turn that sort into a different sort. So they only have themselves to blame if the knock on the door is from the town or animal control officer rather than a friendly but concerned neighbor.

Cheers, Banty

[JoeSpareBedroom]

They should be pleased? Don't try that reasoning, if there ever *is* a legitimate complaint against your dogs.

[Larry Bud]

Because it could be the neighborhood-nanny-stick-my-nose-in-everybody's-business serial complainer who complained.

[Banty]

Yup. I think it's an example of unclear thinking.

Two contentions:

1. I keep my dogs inside their barking doesn' bother any neighbors.
2. My dog barks at all intruders, even those near neighboring houses, thus they are a deterrent.

Huh?

Y'know, when I see this kind of thinking, I see a person trying to rationalize.

Right. And it should be a person's choice as to how they provide for that security. Alarm systems are designed to be a lot more precise than a dog that barks at whoever!

Banty

[ephedralover]

Do you ralize your post made you look like the moron you really are? Did you move here from a third world country or Alabama?

[e-mail] wrote:

[JoeSpareBedroom]

3) My dog barks at absolutely anything, and then I turn on my badly aimed floodlights, thereby blinding perfectly innocent people who are walking at night, trying to enjoy the stars.

[MRS. CLEAN]

The neighbor who has the rod iron fence and the dog named Sierra that barks often.

I still don't mind.

Dogs bark. That's a fact. And, they are legal to have. Again, within reason.

I would never allow my dogs to stare out at the street through rod iron to bark incessantly. I'd give them a pig ear. That quiets them down for hours!

George wrote:

[MRS. CLEAN]

The dogs are inside when I'm gone so if there's noise, it's not from my dogs.

Second, they are out when I'm home. Yes, they do bark occasionally at noises. But I know when and how much. I always go out when they do bark to check and see what's going on, too.

It's very simple.

Banty wrote:

[MRS. CLEAN]

In case you're unaware, dogs are allowed to bark from about 7 am to 10 pm.

If a dog barks incessantly, code people will come to see if the animal is being abused, neglected, hungry or thirsty. If not, you're into civil court.

I don't like a dog alone. I like them in twos so they have company. Most dogs alone are plain lonely. It's sad.

Yes, I keep the entire neighborhood safe.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

[MRS. CLEAN]

I never complain to any of my neighbors about anything.

I want to know for sure if my house was on fire they'd call 911.

I focus on the big things.

[MRS. CLEAN]

So? What can you do about it?

Speak peaceable with code enforcement when they knock at your door.

You'll find they can sniff out the chronic complainer from a real problem.

[MRS. CLEAN]

neighborhood preservation division

by whom. Anyone know how to find out

Have you fixed up your dump, yet?

[MRS. CLEAN]

neighborhood preservation division

by whom. Anyone know how to find out

Actually, you can refuse to pay the fine and demand your day in court.

Then, you can confront and cross examine the alleged victims.

Uh, good luck.

[MRS. CLEAN]

You dont' think there are unreasonable people who cannot be pleased no matter how hard you try?

You must not be married.

[MRS. CLEAN]

neighborhood preservation division

possibly by whom. Anyone know how to find out

Friends are for a short time and enemies are for life.

I never complain about anything. It's self destructive.

[MRS. CLEAN]

Stupid neighbor! But, I'd still not complain. Humans are retaliatory by nature.

[JoeSpareBedroom]

Here, no more than 15 minutes of barking is tolerated. Soon, it will be this way everywhere.

[JoeSpareBedroom]

Most people will be happy if given a pig's ear.