Any idea of cost to run water line to my fridge?

[Ed Pawlowski]

They look nice in a glass of bourbon. The large balls of ice cool and don't dilute as much so even better.

Presentation matters.

[micky]

Maybe someone installed a spa in your basement?

Interesting use of present tense. Did this really happen?

Yes, I think so. This is a real problem. What is one to do?

We need an infrastructure law that will promote research on a tube that won't leak.

[micky]

Seems to me there is a direct relationship beetween cooling and diluting. Unless you have supercooled ice, but even then.

[Marilyn Manson]

Wouldn't a spa release warm mist?

Yes

1 - Turn off the water 2 - Cut out the bad section 3 - Sweat in a new section 4 - Turn the water back on

Research does not fit the old school definition of infrastructure. The bill will never see the light of senate - errr...umm...I mean - day.

[Ed Pawlowski]

There is but not as simple as you think. You have thermal mass and surface area. Put in say 2 ounces of zero degree ice and pour 4 ounces of 70 degree liquid over it.

If it is crushed ice, it has a lot of surface area and little mass so it will melt and dilute quickly.

In another container put a 2 ounce ball of ice and pour the liquid. Since it is thicker, the mass allows it to absorb more heat from the liquid and melts at a slower rate.

Small cubes would be between crushed and large chunks.

This is the one I have and it really does make a difference sipping your favorite adult beverage.

[Ed Pawlowski]

But put 200 degree water in a rubber mold and surround it with 1/2" of insulation and it changes all their calculations.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Nah, by the time I got it done Congress will change the laws of physics.

[micky]

You're the one who signed a contract with a low-budget spa.

I meant what is one to do *in advance* so this won't happen? 3/8" copper pipe. Galvanized pipe. Pec for refrigerators?

[micky]

Interesting.

Reminds me of that kiwi egg I posted about.

I see. I bought an icecube tray that made ice in the shape of naked female torsos. But once in the water, one could barely see a thing. So the next time I added food coloring, but rather than disperse as it does in kool-aid etc. the color all sank to the bottom, or the top, I forget.

Then I stopped having parties.

[Marilyn Manson]

Nothing. Stuff happens. Metal fails.

With all the multi-bazillion miles of copper pipe installed around the world, the rare leak is not only not a reason to change anything, it's not even a reason to *consider* changing anything.

[micky]

so you too are saying that copper is better than plastic. Your tale of the water mist confused me. When my plastic tube leaked it was more than a mist.

(you have to bend copper properly, not too tightly. Wrap it around a coke bottle. That's good becaue a real coke bottle has many diameters. With plastic you can't bend it sharply either, but seems fine today might still spring a leak in 4 years.

[Marilyn Manson]

I did not say that. I was simply pointing out 2 things:

1 - To he who said he knows of 2 instances of plastic tubing failing: copper fails also 2 - To you who wondered if we should be using 3/8" copper or galvanized to our refrigerators: No

Now, if you want to discuss PEX vs copper, push-to-fit fittings (e.g. Sharkbites) vs sweating, etc., that's always a fun conversation.

I use all of the above. I mix, I match. It all depends on the application and if my priority is looks, time, ease of installation, cost and/or some combination of all four.

[micky]

In that case, I said it.

[Jim Joyce]

First world problems. :-)

[Tekkie©]

On Sun, 30 May 2021 00:04:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to digest...

Good one!

[max]

For as much water is needed to fill a ice cube dispenser the water will never be hot by the time it gets to the fridge, especially in a 1/4” line.