Grainger doesn't support the trade. When is the last time you saw them
putting on a class?
Ones that violate that "Wholesale only" sign on the door. F'em.
Johnstone here is a mutt that does it. And anyone who buys from the big
box stores is a moron. You're shooting yourself in the ass if you do.
When all the legit wholesalers are gone. You'll be in isle 14 asking the
18 year old for technical advice.
Here's one that went belly up.
Bill what in hell you talking about, in my area Grainger is open
to anyone however those that have open account with resale
certificate and being in business do have different price and that
isn't just Grainger but some other larger suppliers of HVAC systems
So please don't talk out of your bottom end.
I told the people at our Johnstone distributor .... if you want to loose my
business and 2 other HVAC contractors business...just keep selling to every
Tom, Dick and Harry coming in off the street...I hope they spend over
150,000 a year here
No more sells to street people
And a sign in the store to tell them
Johnstone here in Sw Wa, nor Portland Or. still wont fucking sell to me.
Don't forget they main store is in / and started out in Portland.
My take is that they are simply losing business because they local sales are
anal retentave--trying to maintain a monopoly in todays economy is suicide.
Fuckem I say, let em die a slow painful death what with stocking a
wharehouse of shit I can get direct from the source and what with their
collecting their recievables at 60+days if they are lucky.
Absofuckinlootly. Just as soon as you show us the secret handshake.
You buy those from a contractor.
Or you need a state license and a local registration otherwise. A permit
if necessary. And of course the federal paperwork done and sent in after
taking your EPA test telling them the number of trucks and models of
recovery machines you have.
You do have a recovery machine and tank? Torches, a vacuum pump, gauges,
thermometer, meter, tubing tools, etc right?
The HVAC trade is federally, state and locally regulated.
I resent any SOB who thinks he can bypass the hoops we have to jump
through to do our job.
I'd have mentioned the untrained or half-assed hacks or DIY'ers but most
of them don't bother to read the installation instructions much less a
You going way overboat
there are many things that should be but are not
there are many things that could be but are not
there are many things that are but they should not be
So who are you or am I to say otherwise that is life
and this is democracy?
Ignore the laws and regulations? Are you stupid or a hack? I may not
like them. But it's not fair some play by the rules and others short
I'd argue you get rights with responsibility. Irresponsibility is why we
have most of the laws and rules we do have.
Thanks to the explosions a few years ago in California. The gas laws
restrict what everyone can and can't do. And on and on. Deal with it.
Wholesalers perform services for contractors that retailers do not.
Standing in line behind a knothead and his wife while they figure out
what they think they want may be your idea of doing business, it isn't
Bill you are not telling me something that I don't know
but there are lot of scum bags out there that will gave
you there own mother to take job way from you I know
I have first hand experience in there, they call you for service
and then they call back thank you we was able to do it our self
What F___ joke but that is the way is I suppose they have stock
of R-502 or R-13 which cost $3000.00, 20# jug O yeh
if you want blive that. Believe me all states are not same.
Let me gave you example there is company here in NJ
I have been service them for years they are located about
20 minutes from where I am. I have never had any problem
with them never complains because they was nice to me
I even work Saturdays few times with no additional charges
day came that old guard retire now new young stud took over
and instead continue customer vendor relation now he is
using guy from five ours way if needs to stay overnight
he needs to be paid for motel meals ETC.
Do you think that this guy is following same rules as did?
Sorry but that is the way system works!
In California [at least] Grainger's is an "Industrial Supplier" and not
necessarily a "wholesaler" or even an HVAC/R supplier.
Johnstone on the other hand has perpetually figured out that "wholesaler"
means just that. And recently [in my area anyway] they have stop selling
appliance parts. [Washer, dryers, dishwashers, etc.] They're now only
selling HVAC supplies. Which is going to be interesting to say the least.
There's a considerable market of "wholesale HVAC" in my area.
"Bill" < firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
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