You don't need to find people older than you to learn or find out about
those times - there is plenty of social history on the Net that will
tell you about the food, the clothes, the transport etc of most of the
decades of the 30th century.
Because I am interested in older crafts (spinning, weaving, knitting,
embroidery, garment sewing [on one of my geriatric sewing machines that
include treadle and hand crank]) and what is now a reasonably old
fashioned style of living (cooking from base ingredients, gardening,
home maintenance etc) we find the Net a wonderful resource where we can
find like minded people who have similar interests. My husband likes
geriatric European sports cars of the 1920s through to the early 1950s.
I too recall those times. As a child it was a rare treat to travel to a
tiny town 10 miles away - these days relatives who live in the same area
would do that trip at least once a day.
Yep. but one of the other losses was the traditional homemaking skills
such as growing food and being able to cook from scratch. The need to
keep foods in good order on the shelves and in both the grocery store
and in homes for longer resulted in more additives and less 'as nature
intended it' products.
IIRC, post WWI was a starting point for the commercial availability of
canned food as opposed to made at home from scratch ingredients. After
the end of WWII came the really big changes to how food in the home
changed from, say, the 19th century. As you said, all those amazing
things needed because of war technology just got applied to the rest of
society from those great modern tractors in paddocks (fields) on through
the production chain and into leisure too.
I think you are on the right track. One of the turning points in Oz was
after WW2 when cars became cheap enough for nearly every family to own one.
People stopped walking and riding bikes. Kids used to be so proud when they
got their first bike now they wait for the car. If I went to visit my
cousins as a boy (say 1960) during school holidays we were not allowed in
the house during the day unless it was raining. We were expected to go out
and run about, play a ball sport, build a fortress, explore the
neighbourhood, ride billycarts. Then such a rule was not exceptional but
reasonable common sense, try imposing that rule today.
On Friday, June 13, 2014 4:16:41 PM UTC-7, David Hare-Scott wrote:
We were so poor we never HAD a car. Once in a while the neighbors took us
somewhere. I get every form of motion sickness.(Even got it while hang-gli
ding in tandem with instructor. He said we're going down and I said NO NO
NO He said "I've been thrown up on before and it's not going to happen aga
Holy tamale; I was just a tad queasy!!!)
Anyway, I often disgraced myself; didn't always get to the window of neighb
or's car in time...
Back to playtime: We also went out to play and came home when it got dark.
Nobody worried about kidnapping or molesters back then. Maybe they exist
ed, but we never heard about them.
I bet boats drive you nuts!
Try taking a capsule of ginger powder before starting
said motion. Won't make you sleepy either. Safe
to drive with.
I can only get a hold of the abstract. I had the whole article
at one time. They want $36 for the full article now. And, well,
at $36, I don't like you that much! :-)
If I remember correctly, the Lancet research double
blinded ginger against over the counter anti-nausea
drugs (I believe it was Dramamine), then spun you
around and tried to make you vomit.
Here is a LONG WINDED (even worse than me) article on Ginger:
If you scroll down to "7.6.3. Ginger as an Antinausea Agent",
it talks a lot about the double blinds, etc..
If you read the LONG WINDED article, you will notice all the
"side benefits" (traditional herbal medicine), as opposed to
the "side effects" that you get by using controlled dosages
of poisons (drugs) that the allopaths use. Not that allopathic
drugs don't have their place, just they are a pretty poor
choice for long term use.
On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:03:52 PM UTC-7, Todd wrote:
us somewhere. I get every form of motion sickness.(Even got it while hang
-gliding in tandem with instructor. He said we're going down and I said NO
NO NO He said "I've been thrown up on before and it's not going to happen
ighbor's car in time...
ark. Nobody worried about kidnapping or molesters back then. Maybe they e
xisted, but we never heard about them.
Thanks, Todd -- I've tried ginger, wrist bands, marezine (I don't take dram
amine), & on & on.
Guess I'm just one of those folks who didn't get the standard issue semi-ci
rcular canals in the ear.
But in the context of my otherwise blinding perfection,'tis a small thang.<
That would be a major undertaking. I will if
you are hurt (T2 Diabetes) and you think it would
help you. Basically I consume between 30 and 60
grams of carbohydrates a day.
I also keep a list of the traditional medicines (Herbs)
I use and the double blinds, etc. to back them up,
if you need those.
I can also give you links to great Paleo cooking
groups. (I make my first successful Mousakka
from a posting two weeks ago.)
And I can also send you the Paleo food pyramid, so you
can see the types of food I eat.
The free and open exchange of good and services
between consenting parties
Not necessarily. The diet industry has caught on
to this, which is way all the low carb diets (south
beach, akins, etc.). (I almost said South Park. Chuckle)
It is called the Krebs or citric acid cycle. What you
don't use, you pee or blow off. You smell like
a fruit salad -- smell pretty good too (I did).
By the way, you can eat zero carbs and still have
high blood sugar. (My overly friendly liver keeps
me in more blood sugar than I care for. Makes
it from fat.) That is probably where the fat comes
from that you are thinking about. All it takes is a
little bit of stress and up your blood sugar goes
(your liver thinks you are running for your life).
True. Enough folks get Celiac or T2 Diabetes, and
one will develop. I have no trouble finding food
I can eat.
You mean the ADA? If so, no. They are in the business of
selling services for diabetics. The condition goes away,
they go away. They always have their hands outstretched for
money too. They have a self interest in treating, not curing.
The Allopathic community also has a self interest in treat
not curing. Another word for Diabetic is "cash cow".
If you go to http://www.diabetes-warrior.net , you can get
everything you need to know about healing yourself. This
information was withheld from me. "Here, take these drugs".
My opinion, every Diabetic drug will eventually end its
life cycle in a class action suit. I will love it when I
get my letter on Metformin. Hate the s***. I will sign
up for that suit, even if I only get $2.00 out of it.
Natural things (no test tube food). Here is a really
In this order: proteins, eggs, cheese, fats, oils, fibrous
veggies, nuts, fibrous fruits.
In other words, don't eat anything that has been artificially
hybridized for carbs. And, you have to cook it yourself.
Remember when Grandma use to cook up a bunch of food for
the week and stuff it in the freezer? Well, that is your new
fast food. (She didn't have a microwave.)
And, you can eat a hamburger out. In-and-out have a "protein
style" burger (no bread) that you can get with mustard
instead of spread. I go for triples and quads. They
are really good. (Bear in mind I can now taste my food again.)
In order: 1) grow it or catch it yourself, 2) local organic
farms, 3) production organic farms, 4) conventional.
Just approximate; don't obsess.
The grow it yourself thing is why I am trying to learn
Grain fed gives them ulcers. We are not support to eat
sick animals. That is what vultures and ants are for.
By the way, wheat is a grass. Feed the whole plant
to the cows and you have grass fed. Even better yet,
feed the grains to chickens and the stocks to cows.
I will eat them both! Bring on the rosemary!
When I first got T2, I fretted that I would not have
anything left I could eat. I learned that was definitely
not the case. I set out to teach myself to cook. I
now eat more variety and better food now than I have ever
eaten in my life. One of the things I had to get past
was trying to duplicate the high carbs things I use to
Here is the thing about cooking and carbs. Carbs
have little or not taste and are simply carriers for
other flavors. Once you get past that, it starts getting
easy. Well, when you stop burning butter, eggplant,
eggs. Of goodness gracious, eggplant STINKS up the
house when you burn it! (Rosemary goes really great
on chicken, by the way.)
And, from comments I have read on the Paleo
cooking group, when you switch kids over to Paleo,
they hardly even notice. The food is really good!
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:48:01 +0000 (UTC), firstname.lastname@example.org (Drew
Yadda Yadda Yadda.
Check these links on food production and exports:
Some of this surprised me.
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing.
I wonder how much more we'd export if we stopped subsidizing corn for
biofuels. You can't even eat that stuff! For the first time in
American history, farmers that raises this stuff can't eat from
their own crops!
I am not against biofuels. What ever works. I am against popping
others over the head to pay for it (extortion through the color
of authority, also known as taxes.)
the riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped
I think you are correct. I can smell the scat (polite
farmer talk for livestock s***) on the pork I get
from the supermarket. Dry as hell too. Really gross.
Saw a documentary on a guy who raises organic apples
(way to high carb for me). He runs pigs through the
orchard to dispose of all the fallen apples. Plows
the scat under for fertilizer. The full circle thing.
He has a waiting line for his pork. I want some of
Goodness gracious, I wonder what they are doing to
the lamb at the supermarket? YUK! tastes like a cross
between pork and venison.
If we ever get a Whole Food or similar down here I will
get more adventurous!
I don't know if you have seen my other rantings, but I
think that people don't like produce because it tastes
like scat (polite Todd Speak for "crap"). They need to
try some home grown or local grown. I have to discipline
myself to stop eating the stuff!
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