I always wondered about potatoes green under the skin.
Does this Snopes article deal with all-green, or just under skin?
Anybody have the skinny on this?
To me, that means the potato is safe if the green is localized to the
skin. We have never gotten ill from such potatoes even though we
generally eat the skins.
Also, with potatoes that have started to sprout but are still firm, we
remove the sprouts and then cook and eat the potatoes without suffering
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
On Monday, June 9, 2014 10:35:55 AM UTC-7, David E. Ross wrote:
I'm with you, though I don't usually eat skins, but not because of greenfear.
Sometimes I carve out some flesh along with sprout, harden it off a day or so, then plant. Have some coming up now. This time will harvest YOUNG, as I'm becoming addicted to those baby potatoes one can buy for $$.
I have never seen a potato that was green all the way through, it seems to
me to be unlikely to ever happen as the green is chlorophyll which is only
useful if exposed to light.
Snaopes have it right, you would have to eat a great deal of tater to get
ill. Another useful test is that nearly all alkaloids are very bitter and
solanine is one such, if your spuds don't taste at all bitter then there is
Keep in mind that many plants have toxins in them to ward off animals (like
us) who would feed on them. This is a perfectly normal state of affairs and
if you take normal precautions you will come to no harm. In some cases (eg
chilli) we prize the defensive mechanism!
This is very conservative advice. I have eaten many potatoes (after
peeling) that were green under the skin and never tasted any solanine nor
suffered any ill effects. But if it suits you to lay in bed at night
fretting about the next chemical attack upon your person then plant your
Where are these droves of people suffering solanine poisoning from potatoes?
Are there any cases at all reported? You would think that there would be
some evidence other than the theoretical possibility if it was a widespread
Spent weeks on those critters in my college Economic Botany
Potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant are all members of the
Solanaceae family, commonly know as the "nightshade" family.
All Solanaceaes produce a poison called "belladonna". Some call
Here is a good reference on Solanaceae:
Now the good new is that some enterprising humans in our
past hybridized reduced the poison out of the fruits
and the tubers. DO NOT, DO NOT eat the leaves. The leaves
are still poisonous.
Now for green potatoes, just peal off the green. What little
belladonna you get won't hurt you. The green should only be
skin deep. If they are green all the way through, toss them.
The green comes from exposure to light. Store them in a dark
place. Out in the open, under florescent lights at the
supermarket, will accelerate the greening up of potatoes.
Speaking of hurting you, those same enterprising humans also
increased the carbohydrate levels of potatoes to unnatural
levels not found it nature. You are much more likely to get
T2 Diabetes from them (1 out 6 chance) than to get nightshade
And, folks who eat a lot of nightshades do start to build
up a small resistance to belladonna. (You don't get resistant
to the excess carbs, unfortunately.)
Oh! If you like little potatoes, you must (friend for a suggestion,
not a command) try "Dintje". They were my favorite! I was
thinking of growing them before the Diabetes.
I use to love my potatoes as hash browns fried in butter
with Rosemary. I will live vicariously through you.
On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:59:06 PM UTC-7, Todd wrote:
All Solanaceaes produce a poison called "belladonna". Some call
Isn't that used to poison people in mystery novels?
Damn, damn, damn! I had no idea "they" were ****ing with my potatoes!!!
As a card-carrying potato freak, I highly resent this meddling.
Would buying "organic", whatever THAT means in this day & age, get me
potatoes the way "God" made them? Surely SHE wouldn't ****with one of HER
You are much more likely to get
I'll see if they're sold around here (So. Calif). I've been getting my little darlings at Trader Joe
I nuke big potatoes & when they've cooled somewhat, slice & fry in butter with
Sorry about the diabetes! Medical researchers,esp. the Israelis, are always coming up with technical & medical progress. I mean mind-blowing stuff that might help you. Not meaning to be pushy, but sometimes we have to do our own research.
No, same amount of carbs. But, you'd get a lot less chemicals.
And the people growing them and packing them aren't exposed
to the chemicals either.
Back when I could eat them, the local grown (organic) ones
tasted a lot better.
I use to like them that way too. You have got to try
them as hash browns with Rosemary. Add a couple of
farm fresh organic fried eggs (best fried in butter)
and you have a feast.
And, play around with your paprikas too. There are some of them
out there that are spicy! I *LOVE* hot Paprika! (It ain't
all the hot.)
> always coming up with technical & medical progress. I mean
> mind-blowing stuff that might help you. Not meaning to be pushy,
> but sometimes we have to do our own research.
You "always" have to do your own research. You
must take your health in your own hands.
And thank you for the condolences. Diabetes has
actually been a blessing in my life. I eat better,
I am learning to cook, I am closer to my family,
I go fishing a lot more (exercise that is fun).
And, my health is better than it has been in years.
And, and, TROUT FEAR ME!
You do have to admire the Israelis in many ways.
Did you catch those organic hot house tomatoes
at Trader Joe's last year. A taste of the
holy land: tomatoes picked way to green -- YUK!
the riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped
Had a friend years ago that harvested potatoes. When he
got hungry, he'd pop one down the exhaust pipe of
his tractor. When it was done, it would pop (fly)
out of the pipe and land in the field somewhere. He'd
get out, fetch it, and eat it. YUK! It must have
tasted like utter hell.
This is where your religion gets so weird and impractical.
Roughly 2/3 of food calories world wide is carbohydrates and we can't give
everybody enough to eat as it is. If we went back to "natural' levels of
carbohydrate intake (yet to be defined) what is the chance that most of the
world would starve very quickly? I accept that there are too many humans
but don't you think this method of population reduction is rather harsh?
It is simply impossible to get enough calories without grains, tubers and
bananas, all high carb foods. Despite all its drawbacks we simply cannot
give up farming and become hunter-gatherers, we cannot turn the clock back
10,000 years and specifically we cannot give up farming grain. How do you
think the green revolution saved hundreds of millions from starvation?
Please don't rabbit on about T2 diabetes, a disease of the people of rich
countries who over eat and under excercise, focus on this one question.
How do you feed the world for the next 50 years without heavy reliance on
farming and consuming high carb crops?
In case you missed it I repeat: please don't rabbit on about T2 diabetes, a
disease of the people of rich countries who over eat and under excercise,
focus on this one question.
Where in the world are you getting this bull shit.
T2 Diabetes is all over the world, rich or poor.
The Philippines ranks 10th among countries with
the highest diabetes incidence worldwide*. An estimated
6 Million Filipinos know they have diabetes. Another
6 Million Filipinos have diabetes but do not know
they have it. Health experts believe many more have
impaired glucose tolerance (IGT) and are prone to diabetes.
And, that was only one of the hits.
And if you want other countries, try:
THIS IS A WORLD WIDE EPIDEMIC!
The only difference between rich and poor is the test equipment.
I will let you guess how they test it in poor countries. (Hint:
your kidneys spill glucose at ~160 mg/Dl. World's second worst
The problem is that carbs are addictive and cheap. The idea
that Diabetes is caused by "over eat and under exercise"
is absolute rubbish. They probably move 20 times as much
as I do in a day over in the Philippines and eat a hell of
a lot less. BUT SURPRISE! THEY EAT RICE!
I eat lots of plants. All low carb plants. ALL HAVE BEEN
FARMED. ALL HAVE BEEN HYBRIDIZED. The idea is to match
what our ancestors ate, not to become them. (Okay, growing
it yourself or catching it yourself is fun. Good exercise too.)
Farmers need to hybridize the fat up and the carbs down.
This will be what finally solves the World Wide Diabetes
EPIDEMIC. But, they will have to get past a lot of
special interests to do it. "over eat and under exercise"
is just the special interests looking guilty say, "Gee Wiz,
how did that happen?"
With one out of six of us going to be injured by this
(perhaps one out of three in the near future), yes,
I will warn others. It is the decent thing to do.
I will also let others that have already been injured
know how they can live a normal life, Diabetes and drug
free. Also the decent thing to do.
For people who are not already injured, a half a potato
here and there won't hurt anyone. Just watch yourself.
Eat a variety of food in balance. And, eschew foods that
are full of chemicals and have four times the amount of
carbs found in nature.
THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER PLANTS TO EAT! Yummy ones too,
especially after your satiation switch normalizes and
you get your sense of taste back. I am looking forward
to a ton of them this harvest! If I get good at this,
maybe I will freeze or bottle some.
DRUG AND ALLOPATH FREE SINCE SEPTEMBER 2013!
Hunter-gatherers would have gorged on any form of food that was abundant
if they could get their hands on it regardless of whether it was a carb
or a protein so I find it odd that anyone would try to turn back the
we cannot turn the
Yes. I find it amazing how little exercise seems to be done these days
in comparison to how much intake of chow there is in our modern
societies. The paleo walking regime would be a good thing to resurrect.
Or even a Victorian walking regime.
There is an innitiative of the Qld health dept that has gone round the
country as a Healthy Heart program. It's called something like
"10,000steps" and the goal is to walk 10,000 steps each day. I put on a
pedometer and did over 10,000 steps on a normal day of doing housework,
gardening and animal care. I did 2 lots of baking in addition to the
meals, did a bit of gardening, did 2 loads of washing and hung them out
on the line and then brought the clothes in when they were dry and put
them away. I did a bit of vacuuming and visited the chooks twice to let
them out, feed and water them, collect the eggs and then lock them up
for the night. Just an average day for me but I wonder what a lazy
sloth step count would be.
"Hunter-gatherers" ate whatever they could get their hands
on. And when it was available, they always ate too much.
They also had a lot more variety than we do today. A "well
balanced diet" and didn't even realize it. And no T2 Diabetes.
The difference from today was that they had not artificially
hybridized plants for unnatural amounts of carbohydrates.
They couldn't get their hands on what is injuring us today.
Our bodies are not designed for it. And there is no "natural
selection" as we die from excess carbohydrate poisoning
after we reproduce.
As far as turning back the clock, T2 Diabetes is a world side
epidemic. We need to use the same smarts that got us
these artificial high carb plants to hybridize the
fat up and the carbs down. That will end the problem.
In the mean time, there are just a hand full of plants
to avoid and you won't risk injuring yourself. One-out
And I still eat too much. I am really enjoying being
able to taste my food again. And I am turning out to
be a pretty good cook (lots of room to improve though).
I am like a kid in a candy store when I get into the
produce section of grocery store. Meat section too.
I ignore the row after row after row of "healthy carbs".
You just reminded me to add avocados to
this weeks shopping list. Great source
of plant fat. (Also proves it can be done.)
You never said what kind of cow you raise?
Out here most all of the ranches are Cow-Calf.
For those unfamiliar, Cow-Calf is where
the ranchers raise the calves to a certain age,
then sell then to others to raise the rest of
the way. Sort of like the tomato plants we
buy at the nursery. When the ranchers round
up all the calves for sale, the mamas cry
all night. Kind of heart breaking.
One guy raises cows with the bent horns that
the rodeo cowboys like to wrestle to the
ground -- too hard to do with straight horns.
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