CORGI engineer required to install new radiator?

No, you can do this yourself. Corgi is only for gas appliances, gas fire, boiler etc

Can I suggest that you investigate buying a pipe-freezing kit? Screwfix sells them for

Or buy a bung kit and bung the F&E pipes (if you have them). Then you have no danger of trying to get the job done before the pipes melt and you get wet.

The Corgi requirement (if indeed there is one - because that is a moot point in itself) only applies to gas connections. Assuming your radiator is not heated *directly* by gas, but rather by water heated by a gas boiler elsewhere in the circuit, there's no reason whatsoever why you can't DIY it.

its a requirement that only corgi engineers connect gas and water to a boiler as in a recent edition of the gas installer (corgi mag)

Well that makes them to be The Sun of the gas world then!

nobby wrote in

Leaving aside the Corgi/competent person argument, and without seeing the article in the Corgi mag, there's an ambiguity there with "connect gas and water to a boiler".

Is it suggesting that only a Corgi fitter can attach a water carrying pipe directly to a gas boiler or is it suggesting that only a Corgi fitter can attach any water carrying element of a CH system that has a gas boiler as part of the system?

And we all believe what CORGI says. They have lied so often in the past why start believing them now?

In message , nobby writes

Is it f*ck

and can you not refer to them as engineers, they are not allowed to ENGINEER anything, they are fitters, they fit and install

You can do whatever you want to your own boiler as long as you are "competent" - which cuts out a significant proportion of CORGI fitters

CORGI are a self interest company, they are very good at distorting the facts (such as conveniently pretending that you have to be registered to work on a gas appliance FOR FINANCIAL GAIN)

No. Moreover Corgis are not engineers, most are not technicians either, but simply "monkey see monkey do" gas fitters.

I didn't read it as a 'requirement' (if I'm thinking of the same article as you) - it was about (not) commissioning installations done by unregistered installers. I can't recall the exact details of the article and cba to trawl through those of my back issues I haven't yet chucked out, let alone to subject myself to CORGI's truly dire and buggy flash-based online archive, but I think the gist was that to *commission* (i.e. to fill in the benchmark logbook and generally take responsibility for) an installation one needs to be sure all aspects of the installation

- including the wet pipework - have been done correctly. (In the case of wet pipework this would be ensuring the system has been flushed and dosed correctly.)

The article was written from a typical CORGI point of view of Advanced Arsecovering. That's an observation, not necessarily a criticism: in the context of commissioning an essentially-cowboy installations one has to consider that if the cowboy has f**ked something up (acid flux in a gas pipe corroding it through a few years later, gas pipe joint not soldered in pipe laid in floor, boiler not secure to wall, crud in primary blocking heat exchanger ...) they'll be long gone riding off into the sunset when muggins gets clobbered for their wrongdoings which he signed off as his own work ... for how much money?

Everyone who has a full UK driving licences is deemed to be a competent and qualified driver. One only has to venture onto the roads to see that does not hold true. Likewise any certification only means the person managed to muddle through at time of testing and says nothing of their competence to carry out the task at any other time.

Mel.

If you thought that this was ambiguos and misleading, look at some of the wording on their web site. Phrases such as "likely to be illegal" for example. They can't actually *say* illegal because the relevant Acts don't support the statement.

That is quite a comical statement after seeing some of the work done by some Corgi 'engineers' shown at times on this group. It was only last month that pictures were posted here of an upturned bucket used as a gas fire flue, fitted by a 'competent' CORGI registered fitter.

I'm currently working on a house where the boiler fitter has removed the stop c*ck inside the house. He said it was too stiff to turn, so removed it, fitted a new section of pipe in place of the stop c*ck, and said to turn the water off out in the street if need be. Alan.

Ah but you are confusing "competence" (as in what you've got) and "Competence" which is what CORGI registered people have. The government set up the scheme so they could define "Competence" as they (and the courts) like things easily defined (it's cheaper that way). It's nothing to do with whether they are any good at the work. Your undoubted competence doesn't count (unless you have documentary evidence to prove it) however great it is. Those CORGIs who are incompetent don't count either (other than that CORGI might prefer not to have CORGI isnpired accidents). CORGI aren't concerned with safety. The governent were concerned about being seen to do nothing about safety - now they can say they are. The law may be an ass, and it's supporters deserving of being told to go forth and multiply but that doesn't stop it being the law!

@@ wrote in

The word "forum" may also say something ;)

Lost your argument, I see.

Of course CORGI fitters are safe

Adam

ermm that make £400- 500 a day most days....