Consumer Reports indicated in several test that they do use little
electricity, they do remove contaminates and they do help. However they
also concluded as have many others that they don't remove enough
contaminates fast enough to be any real use. In addition they add ozone to
the air which gives it that fresh rain smell and is also a harmful
The only types of useful air cleaners tested were those employing a fan
and media filter.
Sorry I missed your original post.
I don't place much faith in Consumer Reports, they have been totally
wrong on most items I purchased based on their recommendations!
Or they did NOT test or even talk about the many flaws of the products
they were claiming as excellent best buys, etc.
How familiar are you with how air purifiers work and what the
components of the various air purifiers do?
The most talked about ionic purifiers use negative ions.
Some upscale ionic purifiers use both negative ion generation and
pinpoint negative ion generation and some even use a radio type of
negative ion generation.
But before you consider a stand alone ionic purifier over combination
air purifiers that use filters, negative ionization AND Ozone
generation, think about the purpose you are intending purchasing the
air purifier for.
What negative ionization does is NOT the removal of dust and pollen
from the home as most people think. Its primary purpose is to make
dust and pollen HEAVY so that it falls downward out of the air and
onto your furniture and floors where it can be manually removed.
A very small percentage of airborne particles that pass through the
unit can be attracted to the ionic plates on plate type ionizers, but
most ionizers do not use plates, they use an antenna of sorts and some
also have a needlepoint generator.
Only the radio type negative ionization works throughout the house,
all others work only in the room the ionizer is in.
Combination units that provide mechanical filtering, negative
ionization and a small amount of Ozone are your best bet for removing
airborne particles BEFORE they hit the floor and furniture and for
removing odors. Some units can put out enough Ozone in the timed
sterilize mode to kill or greatly inhibit mold and bacteria in an
The Ionic Breeze is ONLY a single room ionizer.
Quite expensive for what little it does.
For roughly the same price, you can buy a several room combination
unit that provides 3 or 4 or even 5 forms of filtration in a single
unit that is very low in cost to operate.
The word Air Purifier itself can be applied to many products,
including tropical foliage plants.
Yes it is THAT Generic in usage!
Most people who share this experience have chosen products based on the
ratings without reading the entire story. The ratings are based on what CR
considers average users. Few people are average users and you really need
to look at how they rated the product and chose based on what features are
important to you.
Spoken like a true salesman for the ionizer industry.
I don't know if that was directed to me, but if so, sorry and I don't
understand the "S". In any case I did not notice it was also going to
alt.home.cleaning . I was reading and replying in alt.home.repair
What a gentleman! I DO hope you'll continue to post here Joseph . Posters
such as Gary and yourself are so rare. TWO gentlemen in one day!
I've taken the liberty in correcting your signature, I DO hope you don't
Consumer Reports OFTEN fails to test for user friendlyness or
suitability for the use intended or longetivity of replacement
They rated one of the most expensive (to use) and shortest lived water
filters ever made as being a best buy.
A much lower cost unit performed better, lasted longer between filter
changes and removed more contaminants. The lower cost unit was even
much easier to change the cartridges when required.
A number of years ago I purchased a Shop-Vac brand vacuum to replace
an old Hercules that was giving up the ghost. At that time Hercules
was still available.
Of the 6 different specific use vacuums they tested, Shop-Vac was at
the top of the list and Hercules was 2nd to the bottom of the list for
similar size and capacity vacuums.
Shop-Vac all models are wrought with serious engineering design
problems! Not one mention in the Consumer Reports writeup on Shop-Vac
said they were top heavy and tipped over continually. Not one mention
in the Consumer Reports writeup on Shop-Vac said the wands assembled
backwards and were very likely to easily clog because of it.
Not one mention in the Consumer Reports write up on Shop-Vac said you
had to change out the filters in order to use them for wet pickup.
And not one write up said they blow water all over the place when near
Hercules on the other hand had greater power, low center of gravity,
pickup hose and wands that almost could not clog and it could handle
debris over 8 inches in length, Shop-Vac is limited to less than 4
inches. Hercules wet/dry did not require different filters for dry or
wet pickup, although the dry only machine is the best buy and most
useful. A separate water drum may be used with all Hercules vacs and
on some models this separate drum is conveniently stored inside the
vac with very little loss in waste storage capacity of the unit.
Hercules even made a special recleanable filter for use in picking up
filter clogging materials such as drywall dust, soot or other fine
By placing this wonderful vac at second to the bottom in the list of
special purpose vacs, it caused Hercules to go out of business, and
they had a FAR SUPERIOR product than Shop-Vac who got the top rating
by Consumer Reports.
Sorry, I don't sell them, I only use them.
But to be honest, after using them for many years I did attempt at
selling my favorite brand for a few months.
A salesman I'm not, but I'm GREAT at complaining about the flaws I
have found in the various models I have used over the years.
Here is some food for thought!
You know those new Wisp air fresheners that just came out?
I was given three of them to test awhile back.
I placed one in my garage office, set on it's lowest setting. I had
to take it out, it was too strong.
I moved it into our bathroom and even set on it's highest setting, you
cannot smell anything at all from it.
We have a whole house 5 function Air Purifier in our home.
It works so well it completely removes all odors, even the ones you
want to keep in the house, hi hi....
In my garage office I only have a 1 function small ionizer. Ionizers
do not remove odors. But my office is dust free!
I think you got me this time, I really don't know, but it WAS the
thicker published booklet not a magazine I was referring to.
Now, as to whether or not it was Consumer Reports or Consumer
Research, I don't really remember, I thought it was the Consumer
Reports booklet, but I could be wrong.
It has been a lot of years since I have bought one after getting
burned so many times from going by their data.
I think the last one I ever purchased was around 1982-84.
I don't recall Consumer Research doing a booklet. So I will guess you
are right about that.
Since you looking up the information in the booklet, that could have
been the problem. The information in the booklets are edited down and don't
contain all the information in the full report. I always recommend reading
the whole report from Consumer Reports for just such a reason. It is easy
to get the wrong idea from just looking at the ratings. You can easily find
something rated highly based on issues that don't apply to you.
As for the rest, I don't think I can easily look back to 1982 to find
the original report.
I wasn't the original poster. The OP inquired about the Ionic Breeze.
I replied that a number of people posted elsewhere that they were
It is my limited understanding that ion generator air cleaners (those
not attempting to draw the charged particles through collection plates)
cause the charged particles to precipitate mainly on the walls and
the breathing passages of the occupants -- not to fall onto floors
and furniture. Perhaps you can explain why static-charged hair stands
up, if the charge makes it "HEAVY".
Air molecules pick up negative charges, which dust picks up from the
air. The charged dust particles repel each other. The charged air
molecules repel the charged dust. The charged dust particles get
repelled from the air to surfaces, most of which drain well enough to be
at ground potential.
I had an adjustable generator with no plates or filters. It worked
great. It would knock cigarette smoke out of the air quickly. If a
sunbeam showed dust in the air, I'd turn on the generator and the air
would clear fast. Most of the dust would end up on the surfaces closest
to the generator. It's easier to wipe dust from a surface than try to
clean it from the air.
Once I had to remove rock wool from the interior of a wall. That
generator did a great job knocking the dust down.
Depending on the humidity, what was underfoot, how near you were to the
generator, and how high it was set, you could pick up a charge faster
than it drained. Then you'd get shocks. That's why it was adjustable.
Sorry about that, I pulled your name from the top of the first
question I saw ahead of a response.
Every once in awhile, I will get the original Post a couple of days
after I see several responses (threads) applied to it.
But I agree, the Ionic Breeze is a way overpriced piece of JUNK!
I have used them for years and find that (especially with an asthmatic
step-daughter, that they do make a major difference in the air quality
and dropping the airborne particles out of it.
I have only used one that worked like the Ionic Breeze and it was
useless. All the rest I have used did have filters and fans and the
one in my step-daughters room had HEPA filtration as well as pinpoint
negative ionization. She could breath better in her room than in any
other room of the house, before we got the 5 function whole house
We never had problems with dust on the walls, but when first placed in
use, dust is on everything, very heavily for a few weeks. Which means
it must not be in the air any more.
If I understand Static Electricity correctly, it is Positive Charged
not Negative. Else you wouldn't get shocked by touching something
grounded. When you rub a sweater or shuffle your feet across a wool
rug and touch a metal object, you feel a shock when you discharge
yourself of the positive charge.
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