This seems wonderful, but I was wondering if anyone knew what it is
made up of, and if there is anything else that can be sprayed to
almost anything to sanitize. I have a new crawler and a 1st grader, so
I would need gallons of this stuff. I know if I buy a bottle, I'll be
hooked and thought before doing that, I would search it out to see if
there is a homemade way of doing it...
Thanks for any info you can offer,
Soap and water will SANITIZE most anything. The word "sanitize" has a
specific meaning. It is almost synonymous with "clean." Do buy into the
advertising hype. Basically you have in ascending order:
Cleaning removes gross debris and dilutes organisms by physical means such
as rinsing. Sanitizing will kill some organisms (many harmless), but it
doesn't kill many pathogens. Disinfecting will kill many pathogens, but not
all. There are different levels of disinfecting, the best being "hospital
grade." This level will kill TB spores and HIV, but not hepatitis B.
Sterilizing kill everything.
Thanks for your input. So there really is not a homemade spray that
can do what this claims. I just thought the ease of spraying down the
toys between soap and water cleanings would be wonderful.
I would just spray them down with soap and water. The sanitizer really
won't be any better. You could always use a 10% solution of bleach and
water if the items are color safe. In dental offices, the most popular
surface disinfectant (better than sanitizer) is Birex
If you can get your hands on some of that, it would be much better than a
sanitizer. Alcohol is a sanitizer.
You wash toys? I've never met anyone that does that, unless they're a
home daycare provider.
I've wiped down my daughter's toys if they get particularly dirty or
gunky, but I think washing and sanitizing toys is just too
time-consuming and ends up as one of those things that makes it even
more difficult for kids to build up their immune systems.
yeah, I do. My son had his first ear infection a week after birth, and
has had them on and off since that time. He has an older brother who
brings home all his immune system can take on, from school, so I think
he shouldn't be left to also fight off anything from his home. He's
facing having his adenoids removed in coming months.
New question - People are carrying bottles of rubbing alcohol w/ them
for shopping carts and public toilets, can this be diluted to any
degree to quickly disinfect from a spray bottle ?? And most
importantly, not be harmful to kids, pets etc. Just curious.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:42:32 GMT, BeesMom9905
What Michael said, quaternary ammonium stuff. They're pretty cheap
and reliable. Phenolics are also cheap and reliable.
I think nurses use rubbing alcohol because it dissolves skin oil
and leaves no residue. If you spray much of it, it's expensive.
If you dilute it, it's less effective. There's an important type
of bacteria that it doesn't kill.
Germs don't seem to survive on some surfaces. Years ago,
scientists took cultures from various kinds of hand holds in the
New York Subway. They didn't find dangerous germs.
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Quats, such as the blue Lysol liquid, have two primary weaknesses. They have no
killing power and they are not tuberculocidal. There are some relative new
are still called quats, but are tuberculocidal.
Phenolics, such as the brown Lysol liquid, are highly corrosive and toxic to
humans. It is
tuberculocidal and does have bacteriostatic properties. Of course, that residue
corrodes surfaces--or skin.
Hospital grade quats or phenolics do have a low in-use cost, because they are so
concentrated, but they still cost about $25.00 per gallon. Common dilutions are
1:256. Since I already have plenty of water, I buy the most concentrated
it saves on shipping.
Experience is something you don't get--until just after you need it.
I clean everything with alcohol. Go to a Dollar store or buy the
Wal-mart brand. They're cheap and just as good as the name brand. I
never dilute it. Pour it into a spray bottle. I doubt, since it
evaporates, that it is harmful in any way.
That's what I was thinking too. Very affordable at .50 a bottle, and
brings peace of mind w/ kids and animals running around the house.
Thanks Piper for your response.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:40:51 -0600, Piper
Well, just what is "it"? And what do you think it is coming to? LOL :-) I
"it" is, but I do not know where it will end. Maybe Tyvek gear and full-face
for all. :-)
Today, I heard a successful businessman say that he would never sit in a motel
Microbiology and pathology are so interesting.
Whatever it takes.
I would think one would have more chance of liver failure from the rubbing
alcohol or possibly burning to death from a leaky bottle of surgical spirit
and a carelessly thrown dog -end than the chance of expiring from a
supermarket trolley handle infection-but I could be wrong.
perhaps he prefers showers? I am always wary of Norman Bates type
characters when I shower in hotels
The average toilet seat has 40 germs per square inch. A keyboard as
4,000. A telephone has 25,000. Some viruses that cause colds can
survive 72 hours on a surface.
I think the danger from bathrooms is food handlers who don't wash their
hands. Phones and desktop stuff are exposed to hands and coughing.
Janitors aren't asked to sanitize them because they don't look dirty.
Pennies tend to be sterile because of the copper. Coins in general are
pretty clean because several metals kill germs. Dollar bills are the
dirtiest because they pass through so many hands, but the germs are
generally harmless. For example, lots of people have stapholococcus
aureus, which is dangerous, in their nose, but it seems not to survive
on money. One reason is that most hands have lots of stapholococcus
epidermidis, and it protects us from s. aureus. You should never clean
under your nails because that's where the protective bacteria lie in
wait. If you see your surgeon washing his hands, fire him.
Would you like me to tell Mother you and Michael are ridiculing me?
You are wrong. The mother of a good friend contracted salmonella from
a cart. She was elderly and nearly died but for a wise doctor who
questioned everything she did and everywhere she'd been.
Do you mean he couldn't diagnose her illness until he'd found out
everything she did and everywhere she'd been? How did he find which
cart she'd used? How many days had it been since she'd been exposed?
How long would salmonella survive on a handle?
Salmonella is everywhere. That's a reason it's wise to wash hands
before handling food.
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