Except that he doesn't seem to expect that at all. DOn seems to be an
anarchist, in the technical meaning of the word (simply, No GOv.t). I
find this interesting/curious, because I'm wondering how it relates to
human groups (and their interactions) in general.
He expects, I htink, to have the means to defend that right himself.
Prob. becasue the two things are worded differently. But that's a bit of
a different issue.
Actually, what he said is that he'd be willing pay a fee to drive over it
should he choose to do so. ANyway, the road was a different example, and
he already answered that question.
I'm not acting like that - it's a gross misinterpretation. I have my own
questions, and my own reasons for asking them, which are not the same as
anyone else's. But others seem to be trying to reinterpret my questions
to fit into their own views. All I am "acting like" is I'm the person
who is asking my questions for my own reasons. For some reason that I
don't understand, this seems to be upsetting to a few people, who seem
determined to tell me what I am asking, why I am "really" asking it, what
the answers "really" mean - and what sort of lowlife I am for not getting
into a froth over the answers and/or for questioning their
interpretations of those answers.
WHich is why I was trying to limit my question to a very local situation.
I dunno, maybe some people just get irate when someone else saysthat
their point does not follow logically from when they claim. I do
remember that, when I worked at teh Agency, there were a few analysts who
would have blue fits if as much as one semicolon of their precious
verbiage got changed by an editor. Maybe it's a related phenomenon, this
thing of deflecting off of a topic so as to make a personal comment.
WHat pops into my mind is actually a commercial. Two women are sitting
on a bench (why, I dunno, not relevant). One, who looks like a normal
everyday person, is ahve a good time eating some sort of sandwich (the ad
is for the sandwich, but I can't remember *that* part of it <L!>).
Anyhoo, the other woman is dolled up like a supermodel, staring at teh
normal woman, and we hear her thought process, about how teh other woman
is enjoying that so much, and so on and on, and then it turns into how it
shoudl be the model-type enjoying it, it should be hers, and so on. THen
out of the blue, she looks at the other woman and says, "I hate you!"
Like the rather bewildered owman who is just eating her lunch, I find a
great many human actions and reactions to be completely bewildering...
I think it's possible that her reaction is intentionally nebulous so that
people can project onto it whatever they themselves would feel in a similar
situation. I would be bewlidered and probably defensive; I'm not able to
understand why or how someone might feel gratified to have someone else
just holler "I hate you" out of the blue...I'm also not sure that I would
really *want* to be able to comprehend/relate to such a reaction...
I was born in 1956 =:-o Mental age is another matter, of course ;) - I
seem to have been very old when young, and getting younger as I get older
Overall, tho', people *do* seem to be a lot more, what's the best word,
hypersensitive?, then seems to have been the case in the past. It
becomes a problem when feelings take total precedence over
logic/rationality. I'd be interested inwhether a study has been done
comparing the *statistical percentage* of mass-murderers in the
population (plain numbers would increase as population increases),
because I think there is a correlation of sorts between lack of self-
control, and this business of blowing away unmpety-ump complete strangers
before offing onself, as opposed to just suicide. THis is whjy I don't
think that, as I'd mentioned elsewhere, violence can be controlled merely
by controlling access to things - I think there is a fundamental problem
with the society/culture.
I personally struggle perennially with the whole individual-group thing.
On the one hand, there *are* things I thing are valid, and other things I
just believe in. OTOH, I've also felt, for most of my life, rather
tyrannized by The Almighty Fat Belly Of The Bell Curve, by sociocultural
norms that simlutaneously reject me and a hell of a lot of other peole as
well, and demand a conformation that I am, like many, unable to provide.
Not because I'm violent or nasty or any of that, just because, well, I
don't really comprehend why, not sure that the "why" matters a whole lot.
What matters is coping with it.
A whole heck of a lot of people get *really* POed when one says something
like that - it throws many for a loop to realize that one simply doesn't
care whether or not they approve of one's life.
Heh, interesting mental image, GOing to Hell on a rocket sled, cool ;)
I think I read that Don won't engage you, or something to that effect. A day
or so earlier I read that I haven't the courage to address him directly,
since I won't argue with a guy who'll say the types of things he says, and
so can't be taken seriously. Don seems to want it both ways: AC-DC.
I don't know who posted it first, but it's easily the 3rd time I've cited
(which is why the group is still worth it despite the odd lunacy.)
"Announce" is a charged word and is not the same as either "make a side
comment that" or "include in a discussion with someone because it seems to
the two of them that it relates to the topic".
Also, don't confuse "care" (as in, "to be emotionally invested in and
therefore concerned with, or having anxiety about") with "clarify".
Someone can have an intellectual interest in attemting to clarify a point,
without being emotionally invested in whether one or more specific poeple
will be able to, or more specifically choose to, comprehend that
Yeah, but why waste your breath, unless we're eavesdropping on some interior
self-affirmation he learned from Tony Robbins....or an inadvertent post to
the wrong group like ++ doesn't now and again....
Hmm? I didn't demand that. I was asking why, if one did not wish to be
aprt of a community, one would wish to live within that community, as
opposed to leaving.
Yup. It's a trade-off, a choice. Nothing is ever perfect, at least not
all of the time.
That's exactly true. But that wasn't what I was asking about. I'm not
attacking or accusing, I'm just asking questions. If I sound rude, you
have to ell me, because I have little sense of that sort of thing, but
being rude isn't my intent...
Yeah, it's bizarre when you move to what seems ike the middle of nowhere,
and then, WHammo!, some developer comes in, and next thing you know,
you're hemmed in on all sides and have HOA ruleboks being thrown at you.
That's how you know ya got it good ;)
I've pretty much lost my tolerance for rudeness. It's just
*unnecessary*, also it's a waste of energy, because it takes far more
energy to be all POed at the world and frown and be rude, than it takes
to just be a bit Zen and treat people with basic civility.
The medium is difficult for most people. I like it because I'm much
better in writing, then speaking. But for most folks, it's the other way
around, I assume because one cannot hear vocal inflections or see facial
expressions or hand gestures. Since i'm not as adept at interpreting
inflections and expressions, it's less improtant if I don't see them.
But I have the feeling that, for many epole, *not* being able to see/hear
those cues makes it much easier to impart their own emotions into the
words of others. Or maybe not - I'm just theorizing again.
Heh, sounds like my eldest sister, the one who moved to Australia.
Oh yeah - "QDU" - duh. That one was a lot better than I'd expected it'd
be. Alan Rickman always brings a certain level of quality to a film. I
also saw a very un-advertised little film called, IIRC, "Somethign the Lord
Made", about the first ever heart surgery - a very excellent film, if you
can find it.
It's based on historical fact, which is the best part. I don';t often
recommend films, but this low-key gem is IMO a top-notch bend of history,
with excellent scripting and acting. One of my all-time favorites (which
might not be saying much, considering some of the other films that are my
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