Did you miss-post again?
Group singing is the only thing I miss about church. A couple of my friends
sing in (non-church) choirs for the same reason.
No, while perusing the newsgroup, I was downloading free MP3s of
supposedly religious music although this turned out to be folk music,
recitations and etc. in the middle of some church music but all from
somekind of outdoor concert. I was interested in peoples' opinion, was
it a child, baby or sheep or lamb. I concluded it is a lamb.
I sing in a few choirs, diffrent languages, have cut down on the secular
It is a mixed bag. It seems like it was originally some kind of
outdoor concert c alled Raise the Pillars to raise money for the
rebuilding of Djurdjevi Stupovi, It has everything from those kind of
communist sort of recitations to people doing Byzantine and Serbian
chant with an ison machine to people doing regular folk music to
children singing together, etc. I didn't listen to all of them , but a
snatch of one I heard someone was talking about demonstrating at the
Sava Center, but with sheep in the background, it can't be Beograd?
Unfortunately, the Russian Orthodox Church in Moscow doesn't give a lot
of info on some of their downloads so I don't even know when or where
the concert was held. Whole album is here:
It is sure not an Orthodox event because people are clapping at the
numbahs. Djurdjevi Stupovi which was built by Saint Stefan Nemanja in
the 12th century, on the hill above the medieval Serbian capital Ras in
Rashka (I know you know this, but others on the newsgroup do not). The
album is an almost grotesque combination of nationalism and piety and
features, on one its track one of the most nationalist bishops of all
doing in this case not so bad a sermon. Hmm, maybe there is a website?
Yes, indeedy, and some of the numbers ar on You Tube.
www.djurdjevistupovi.org.yu which is, surprisingly, optimized for
Firefox and evidently, from the initial site photo, Djurdjevi Stupovi
Monastery is finally under reconstruction. I think I did a paper on the
ediface in 79 or 80 and the building was in ruins at that time, so this
is a new effort. Always liked the architecture.
One of my favorite blends! <sarcasm off> Just this morning I found myself
corresponding with some kind of fundamentalist Protestant Christian of
Nordic extraction, who advised me that "I know the Jews crucified Christ."
My first reaction was, "I've heard about these types", followed by a
I wanted to point out that the Romans were in charge, and that Jesus, his
parents, his Apostles, and all the OT prophets were Jews, but then
remembered my rule about debating with ideologues. I wondered what it would
take to get this person to participate in a pogrom under the sign of the
cross, and I realized sadly: not too much.
H. L. Mencken defined a demagogue as "one who will preach doctrines he knows
to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots."
So, if I understand you correctly, and I hope I don't, if you're doing
anything at all while perusing this newsgroup, that makes it related
to this newsgroup so you post it. ...you are a master of irony.
It was a concert of mixed, sometimes incredibly nationalist religious
music dedicated to saving and renovating a very unique Serbian church
ruin, a church ruin I actually studied at one time ( studies I did on
Romanesque influences on Serbian churches) and I was going to get around
to a discussion of some of the unique and interesting elements of that
particular building but it seems that really you would like to reduce
the number of posting personalities on this particular newsgroup. No
problem - tell ya what. I will just show up here on the rare occasion
and post irrelevances. OK? This will make the newsgroup more
manageable for you to read and also illumine and underscore your
contention that I post only off topic.
I have no qualms about off topic posting. It is, primarily, what this
group does. I am merely seeking acknowledgment that you have been
thoroughly and totally co-opted and now post total irrelevancies
without hesitation. The very thing you complained of when you first
visited this group. Some might construe that as admitting weakness,
but I view it more as starting fresh - a clean slate - similar to,
"Hi. My name is Bill and I am an alcoholic."
In the eastern church, the congregation generally doesn't sing. It's the
priests and choir or cantor. Most of them are pretty good. The main thing
isn't really how good there were though, it's that is was live, and
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