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It's certainly ingenious but not very convincing: e.g. Purcell, Vivaldi and Handel should surely be closer to Bach. Another way of judging "the likelihood of the same person liking both" might be to choose a CD at Amazon and see what others who bought it had also ordered. But that wouldn't throw up many "esoteric" recommendations, I assume.

Alan Jones

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Will wrote: [..."classical" music...]

Will, that's an appalling choice!

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Mike Lyle

Arrgghh. This is what you get when you cross post.

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Why? Most so-labelled composers had nothing particularly to do with academies.

Try "Western art music", which is still problematic. How 'bout "music that Liebs knows from"?

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Areff

They are. They were at Yoshi's in Oakland not too long ago. Two of their "biggies" were Morning Dance

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Skitt

"Charles Riggs" the Omrud

lol... Sounds tasty.

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Richard MacIntyre

"the Omrud"

I suppose.

Fair enough, because I have some concerns with categorizing music into genres.

Trio? I thought it sounded like way more than just 3 women.

Alas, I still listen to Severed Heads, but, like Windows XP to Linux, I want to slowly weaning myself away and towards other things like free music and getting back to electronic composing.

I like maybe one song, give or take-- with some exceptions-- from every act out there and that's about it. It's a good thing the internet's around.

I'll give it a check, thanks.

That's intriguing. I'll definitely look into it, thanks.

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Richard MacIntyre

David the Ormud wrote: I found this yesterday - I have no idea how accurate this is, but I'm impressed by the interface:

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It draws a map of items, with the distance between the items related to the likelihood of the same person liking both of them. So the map above has Bach in the centre and other composers, bands and artists clustered around. You can click on any of the other items to re- centre the map. It also does movies and books.

Interesting to look at, but I don't understand why the names never stop moving. They go away from the center, then start to move back, then away. Am I supposed to wait an hour for them to settle down?

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Richard Maurer

Indeed it does. Spyro Gyra orignated in Buffalo, NY. Spirogira, on the other hand, is a lower life form than even a musician-- more of an algae type of thing.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany

There have always been handfuls of pop/rock/jazz/etc. groups, whose music has deep classical roots.

Notan

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Notan

What is "free music" in English usage?

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Areff

Richard Maurer wrote: [...]

Because some website builders haven't got the brain-power or the emotional intelligence to see the difference between the Internet and television. There's also the phenomenon many of us have witnessed of builders saying to other builders "Look at this!" instead of trying it out on real people in the target audience. Matter and manner, style and content, will always and in any medium be what we have to wrestle with: AUE would otherwise vanish without a trace.

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Mike Lyle

David the Ormud wrote: I found this yesterday - I have no idea how accurate this is, but I'm impressed by the interface:

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It draws a map of items, with the distance between the items related to the likelihood of the same person liking both of them. So the map above has Bach in the centre and other composers, bands and artists clustered around. You can click on any of the other items to re- centre the map. It also does movies and books.

Richard Maurer wrote: Interesting to look at, but I don't understand why the names never stop moving. They go away from the center, then start to move back, then away. Am I supposed to wait an hour for them to settle down?

Or is it supposed to be a moving 3D display with the names always facing forward? And no controls for adjusting the view? (I have old browsers so may be missing some features.)

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Richard Maurer

I'd imagine the movement was done intentionally, to make things more "interesting" than a static display.

Notan

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Notan

Glad you liked it; but I'm afraid I can't claim credit for coining the expression.

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Mike Lyle

It is interesting, isn't it? I've been puzzling over the large distance between Tchaikovsky and Tschaikowsky, and why the latter clusters near B B King and Melt-Banana on the road to Anthrax. Maybe it's the heavy artillery in the 1812.

There's a Gustav Mahler along with Robert Schumann in amongst Radiohead, Jimi Hendrix and Simon & Garfunkel, but plain old Mahler is way off that map near Shostakovich, Brahms and Wagner.

A quick glance at the books section shows that it only knows a few dozen authors so far, so I guess the music database is also still based on a very small sample.

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John Holmes

An oxymoron, all right.

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Charles Riggs

I get about three seconds of movement away from the center into rough positions, and then the names just "jiggle" a bit, never crossing one another and never really moving much relative to one another. What's (almost certainly) going on is a method called "force-directed placement" or "graph relaxation". You figure out how far apart you want each pair of nodes to be and model a spring (that can stretch and compress) of that length between them. You put all of the nodes down on the graph somewhere. (In this case everybody goes in the center.) Then you model the physics of the system, to see where the nodes would wind up. It's not uncommon for the result to wind up with little orbits like what's shown here, although typically people cut the algorithm off after it seems to be reasonably stable.

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Evan Kirshenbaum

Richard Maurer wrote: Interesting to look at, but I don't understand why the names never stop moving. They go away from the center, then start to move back, then away. Am I supposed to wait an hour for them to settle down?

Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: I get about three seconds of movement away from the center into rough positions, and then the names just "jiggle" a bit, never crossing one another and never really moving much relative to one another. What's (almost certainly) going on is a method called "force-directed placement" or "graph relaxation". You figure out how far apart you want each pair of nodes to be and model a spring (that can stretch and compress) of that length between them. You put all of the nodes down on the graph somewhere. (In this case everybody goes in the center.) Then you model the physics of the system, to see where the nodes would wind up. It's not uncommon for the result to wind up with little orbits like what's shown here, although typically people cut the algorithm off after it seems to be reasonably stable.

Thank you. It must have something to do with a small pipe or my once powerful 133 megahertz machine no longer being mega enough.

133 not enough! Why, I remember a time when we were lucky to have one megahertz... and a simple addition would have to walk three cycles uphill in the snow to the accumulator and then three more cycles uphill to a temporary resting place.

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Richard Maurer

On 11 May 2005, the Omrud wrote

It's an extremely interesting idea.

I didn't explore whether it explains how it maps -- but, like you, I'm not sure of the accuracy. (It's a bit odd, to me, that places Brahms and Bach a good deal closer to Chopin than it does Mendelssohn...and they dropped an "s" from the latter's name....)

Neat idea, though.

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Harvey Van Sickle

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