I came across some sad news today. Longtime frequent poster and all around
nice guy, Christopher Egan died last February.
I thought that those of you who remember Christopher would like to know why
you haven't seen him around here for a while.
Thanks for the info.
A damn shame. He was a fine man and a fine architect. I had spoken to him
about some projects that later fell through and was really looking forward
to working with him. In the next life now, I guess.
He was younger than I!
Very sad news. Shoking in fact. I didn't know he'd been ill unless he
I often think of the reality that in time people who've been affiliated with
this NG will eventually pass on while some of us still lurk, post and
preach, inform and in-fight, bicker and bitch. Chris was always more of a
peacemaker than monger. Maybe his passing was somewhat of a message from
him for some of us to extend olive branches to each other and agree that all
the pointed opinionated ugly banter that's been going on over the past few
weeks is really just an acknowledgement or celebration of the fact that we
all have the freedom to express our opinions and that they are just that,
All in fun, no winners, no losers.
Wait a second... on the egan-martinez website this page
As of May 1, 2006 we have re-located to a new mailing address in San
2503 Jackson Keller, # 703
San Antonio, Texas 78230
We are best reached on our cellular phones:
Christopher Egan (architecture) 210-867-3428
Ana Martinez (food & graphics) 210-867-3014
On the 'contact us' page http://www.egan-martinez.com/contact.htm Chris'
cellphone is still listed
Christopher Egan (210)-867-3428
Ana Martinez (210) 867-3014
But more importantly, if Chris passed in February, why is the site updated
on May 1st?
2007 was quite a year for alt.architecture.
The loss of Christopher Egan, Bob Morrison.
JD died long ago, but his ghost still posts from time to time.
In the spirit of the celebration of the dead, here are my predictions
Warm W will pass due to blunt trauma of a falling florescent light
Pat will survive the year buoyed by dumb luck.
Don will pass due to an accidental gun powder explosion in his garage.
Mike B. will pass from choking on his own arrogance.
Ken will die from gangrene, stemming from an exposed frozen penis.
After being away from the newsgroup for over a year, due to some mis-setting
in my newsgroup stuff, I was determined to try ,once again, to make it work
and finally got the darn thing to connect.
My joy is tempered by the news of Chris's death. I had the honor of meeting
him several years ago and had the pleasure of seeing some of his projects.
He was always a gentleman in word and deed, and a real attribute to the
architecture profession. His kind and thoughtful contributions to this group
were something I always looked forward to. He will be greatly missed.
Greetings to all here in alt.architecture.
I have been generally disgusted by much of the recent content of the
group, ...especially the cross-posts from some rather odd
newsgroups...so I've stayed out of it. However, I finally decided that I
have an obligation to express my opinion....welcome or not. In doing
so, I am not trying to convince anyone to agree with me....simply trying
to give balance to some rather bizarre points of view.
I am also going to criticize the beliefs of a long-time poster to this
group, something I generally try to avoid. However, I feel quite
strongly that my friend ghost-sniper has made too many hostile comments
against civilization as a whole, including obnoxious and uncalled-for
personal attacks on anyone with whom he disagrees, and that these cannot
go unchallenged. For the record, those of you who have followed this
group in recent years will recall that I have on several occasions
defended his right to express his opinions here, and I will continue to
do so. Ghost-sniper has often contributed useful observations on
construction and the business of building, and I hope he will continue
to do so. I will not enter into personal attacks, and I prefer to think
that he will reply in kind....but that is his choice to make.
First....as to the notion that each of us is responsible only to him or
her self....this is ridiculous. From the earliest dawn of homo sapiens,
we are a species that has done its best by working in groups...whether
for hunting, gathering, agriculture, industry or whatever. Isolated
individuals who have no support from or interaction with a group do not
drive pick-up trucks and live in gated communities. I assume that every
penny that ghost-sniper possesses has been earned by honest work...but
within a larger economic system that generates wealth. Outside of that
system, life would be quite different.
The original meaning of the word "civilization" is the art of living in
cities....the art by which a large group of people organize themselves
in order to get along and flourish in a large and complex society. Of
course, there are cultures in which this level of complexity never
arises...those that operate at the level of small bands, tribes or
villages. When everyone is inter-related, or when the group is so small
that everyone knows everyone else, the system of governance can be quite
simple. However, once the scale increases to include large numbers of
people who are unknown to each other and who live in different places,
the mechanisms that work for governing a small group simply do not
function. They must be enhanced by larger governmental organizations
such as states or nations.
Now some will say that this is a mistake, and that there should be no
government larger than a village, similar to the type of community
effort ghost-sniper described in his description of his gated community.
Those who live in the United States and who hold this opinion are
entitled to express them....but I will only respect their honesty after
they have done the following, all of which are the actions of a national
1. Leave the territory of the United States since you consider the
national government and economic system illegitimate and do not wish to
be tainted by any of the benefits of living here.
2. With your friends, find some un-built-upon land and either purchase
it...without using dollars, which is the currency from our supposedly
corrupt national economic system backed by the national government...or
fight a war of conquest to win it, and then seek recognition as a state
by the world community...or prepare yourselves for ongoing military
actions by those who do not recognize your claim to the land. (The land
should be unimproved if you want to prove your point of
self-sufficiency...otherwise you would be taking advantage of the
efforts of others which would completely negate your ideas).
3. Build your community any way you wish....providing the
you desire of roads, ports, airports, water systems, water treatment
4. Support yourselves any way you wish...but if you wish to sell
services or goods to citizens of other countries, including the US, you
will need to develop treaties and request visas. If you prefer piracy,
that is your right, although you will thereby prove your dependence on
the efforts of others and must again prepare yourself for the military
response of other nations.
5. Develop your own currency and try to win its acceptance and
confidence in world markets.
6. Attempt to attract foreign investments if you wish to live beyond
level of subsistence.
7. Develop whatever system of justice, policing, etc. you choose...and
your own system to prevent attack or abuse by criminal elements.
8. Develop your own education system, assuming you expect your
experiment to survive more than one generation.
9. Do all this without the support of any national government, since
do not respect national governments and have repeatedly said that you do
not want any help from anyone.
Then write us and tell us about your new state....then I will listen,
but not before.
The fact is that ghost-sniper is benefiting enormously by living in this
country under its system of government, economics and taxation...and
unless he is willing to back up his words with the actions I describe
above, all his attacks are those of someone barking at his own
Some examples...I was going to remind him that the current configuration
of our nation was the result of aggressive action in the 19th century by
the national government, funded by taxpayers, to seize vast amounts of
land through purchase and/or military conquest, to pacify these lands
through federal military occupation, to subsidize the construction of
the railroads through gifts of land and military protection, and to
subsidize settlement through the offer of land grants. However
ghost-sniper has already suggested that he considers all of these
illegitimate and unconstitutional acts in his amusing rejection of
Jefferson's purchase of the Louisiana Territory with national tax
dollars! Without these actions by the tax-based national government we
would still be the original 13 colonies on the Atlantic Coast, backed up
by a much larger French-speaking nation stretching from New Orleans to
Canada, including Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Arkansas, Illinois,
Michigan, etc. Of course we don't know what would have happened between
Spain and France....since for some time they were both ruled by the
Bourbons,...so maybe all of the North American continent would be ruled
by a French-Spanish nation dominating its tiny English-speaking
neighbor. Personally, I imagine that if Jefferson had NOT purchased
Louisiana, the French and Spanish would have ultimately crushed the 13
coastal states in order to win access to their Atlantic ports. (By the
way....ghost sniper lives in Florida...."La Florida" of the Spanish
Empire....now just how did THAT become part of the US without action by
the national government?...or maybe he would prefer to pay taxes to King
I for one am quite proud to be part of a civilized society in a nation
of states. I am quite happy to be part of a species that survives at its
best through combined efforts. I am also proud to be an
architect....part of a 5000-year legacy of providing the built settings
for the life of this civilization.
I expect that others share this pride...and I offer you my respect and
Architect and citizen of the United States of America
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