If gravity ran out, brownwater would be the least of our worries.
By the way, I'm learning "photogrammetry" with Imagemodeler. (More
pots on the boil. :)
I have little on the backburner per se; it's all just all one long row
of burners in a very long kitchen... that stretches to infinity. ;)
Speaking of which, I watched a You Tube docu (note the 'u' at the
"end" and lack of proper ending ;) on how we all could be simulations.
But I surmised that, if we're all simulations, then our 'simulators'
could also be simulations-- ad infinitum-- which would seem to cancel
out all simulations, and bring us back to present reality...
Or, like my website's Matryoshka, the simulation within a simulation
within a simulation-- the whole that includes all Matryonas within--
was the reality. Again; no simulation. ;)
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On May 4, 1:18 pm, email@example.com wrote:
On the plus side I could lift my car easily, fly by flapping my arms
or just jumping, and win the Olympics powerlifting events - all of
them. I'd be willing for Pat to wallow in his federally funded muck
On May 14, 12:44 am, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
For me, right now, less is better.
I spend a majority of my time in a 12 x 24 office with a 24x24
workshop hooked onto the side.
Works fine for me.
I've been designing a series of small living facilities and using
Kenniff as a sounding board on occaision for insight.
Live the design, in your head.
But at some point you have to let the rubber hit the road - some
things just can't be fully imagined in sufficient detail.
I'm also working presently on a design that can be built in stages
(disregard silly zoning constraints for a moment).
Stage 1 can be built for around $30k, is 24'x24' and consists of a
living room, eat in kitchen, basic bathroom, bedroom, storage and
Stage 2 can be built for $20k, is 12'x40', making the overall building
at this point L shaped, and consists of 1 more standard bedroom,
laundry room, master bedroom with bathroom and walk-in closet and
impacts the existing 24x24 very little.
Stage 3 can be built for another $20k, is 24x40, making th building Z
shaped and consists of a large living room (the old living room
becomes the new dining room) and a 2 car garage.
Stage 4 can be built for about $10k and consists of a porch on the
front of the house and a large screened in porch across the back.
When its all completed there will be 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, laundry
room, eat-in kitchen, dining room, living room and 2 car garage at
around 1600 sf. total living area.
All of the stages from 2 through 4 have very little impact on the
previous stages and were designed so that the existing can be lived in
while the additions are being built.
Believe it or not, this is pretty tough to do - taking into
consideration the HVAC trunk lines, electrical service, plumbing and
waste lines, etc.
My son and his SO may be the first guinea pigs.
Oh yeah, the above prices do not include labor as the owner will
Bears out the old principle of the house-construction cost curve, eg
there is a minimum cost whatever the size of the basic dwelling, due to
all the services, fixed costs etc. Cost per unit area reduces as size
increases. Normally cost/unit area begins to rise over a certain size
because of structural issues, increasing free spans etc. but this doesn't
occur with an incremental approach.
What is interesting to me is the concept of "small". 24' x 24' = +/- 54m2
Small for some of us is more like 20m2 :-O
GD metric math, had to pull up the calculator to see what was going
20m2 is about 14'x14' and that gets pretty tight for living quarters
for *2 people* with the amenities I described.
Sure, people can live in less space but there are tradeoffs.
I guess I'm firmly attached to the paradigm of the suburbs or rural
areas, where the basic dwelling has all of the necessities.
(remember, I said disregard zoning issues)
What you call house-construction cost curve I call *core costs* and
you're absolutely correct.
The angle that I coming at though is of upfront and incremental
affordability, or better yet, home ownership without a mortgage.
**I lived in an army barracks room about that size for 3 years with
one other person and we didn't kill each other, but our kitchen has an
electric frying pan and a toaster oven and our laundry facility was
about 12 blocks down the street. ;-)
i forgot to add: double glace window with vinyle edges.
polyethene sheets to seal the interior walls from mositure and cold drafts
from the outside. and most important a poetic landscape or garden.
u need a development permit for front back and side setbacks first and then
a construction plan later.
Vinyl, huh? What about aluminum clad windows like Pella, or
fiberglass windows, or wood windows if the person is uber-green and
wants to paint them a custom color? Such decisions have very little
to do with the design of the house, and are primarily driven by budget
and the owner's/architect's sophistication and taste.
The polyethylene sheet vapor barrier on the "interior walls" is
incorrect and misleading. I know you mean the interior of the
exterior walls, but that is also not necessarily true as we don't know
where the OP is looking to situate this good-design house. The cold
drafts (hot drafts and lukewarm drafts are also to be avoided) and air
infiltration in general is usually dealt with by installing house
wrap, such as Tyvek, or the newer sheathing with taped joints. Read
up at the Building Science web site before you attempt more such
I like the idea of a poetic garden or landscape, but how do you build
Many times there is a zoning code in place and the setbacks are
clearly called out. This get investigated before any design work or
you're just wasting time.
The...outside look of the house...is more important than the
interior...? Huh? What is he supposed to do - poll passersby? Is
that your idea of good design - design for strangers? The owner
determines the esthetics, assisted/lead by the architect/designer, and
the building department or zoning board shoots the design down or not.
Hold up there a minute, Hoss. You just said the outside look is more
important than the inside, now you're saying that form follows
function, and since essentially all function is inside the house the
outside should be lead by the inside. So which is it?
Shear walls are not the only way to deal with shear, and local
requirements - again, of which we know absolutely nothing - will
override any generalizations like you're making.
Ummmm, how big is this guy's house in your mind? If you had said that
there should be a cleanout at every change in direction for the
_waste_ lines I would have let you slide.
Not sure about Canada (who is - right, Ken?), but in the US the
individual states have jurisdiction over who can design what and who
is legally permitted to sign off on the drawings.
Same here, cept I let her hang around.
...and its a little bigger'n 20x20, more like 28x28 times 2.
Maybe I should take Richards advice and downsize, cut the top half off
and turn it back into treez.
BTW: Why should dwarfs be forced to have a house that is too tall for
them, and the added expense?
Shouldn't they be able to have a house thats only 4' tall if they want
it that way?
Her house in what sense? She built it for herself?
Why should I need a hacksaw? :)
Prison? Well, O's decent in the summer-- quieter! and warmer than
Vancouver, if not more than your Oky. I rollerblade quite a bit
beside the Rideau River and canal.
Besides, if I wanted to create a steady-state economic party in
Canada, this would seem like a good place.
How 'bout a backlit fish shaped window?
The flagless flagpole looks like a fishin' rod, so....how 'bout
running a string from the flagless flagpole to the fishes piehole?
Then count the car wrex out front as the gawkers lose
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