Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
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As a long time lurker (4 years), I've watched with interest and disgust
as BAD spread his shill to garner support/sympathy/attention for
himself. There have been others in the past that seemed bad, but BAD
puts them to shame. He's the first I've ever put in the bozo bin.
Sometimes, even the loonies had something useful to contribute, but not
this one. Seems sad that it had to come to this. Put me on the list
I reached the boiling point with BAD long before Tom did. I'm not
nearly the patient and well-mannered gent that Tom seems to be. I figure,
if someone as thoughtful and articulate as Tom has been driven over the
edge by the incessant spew from Mr. D. W. Anderson, things have sunk to a
Tom has offered help and knowledge to everyone who asked, for years
now. He has a lifetime of cabinetmaking experience, and an understanding
of classical design that informs his work and advice (advise, Keith). He
doesn't respond to every last thread, but he certainly could, and with
cogent, useful advice.
BAD's woodworking knowledge and skills, on the other hand, are about
a foot wide and a micron deep. Yet he sticks his unedited, unpunctuated,
and usually uninformed remarks into more discussions than any six other
contributors here. When combined with his incessant off-topic blather, his
presence here is not unlike that of a turd in a punchbowl.
Count me in.
I haven't read most of the squabbles you've had with Tom, but I
remember coming across a statement or two like this from you earlier,
and I'm curious about it.
Neither have I read all of Tom's posts, but those I have easily
convinced me of an exceptionally literate personality, with a decent
grasp not merely of literature but of appropriating the _bon mot_.
I couldn't tell you whether he's a _vir bonus_, but that he's _dicendi
peritus_ (from Cato's determination of what makes a great
orator/statesman) makes him one of the more gifted writers on this
NG--at least so it seems to me.
What makes you think he's not a good writer? Have you saved the
instances where he wrote something that made you think otherwise, and
can you share them with me? I'm at a loss to see why you have judged
his writing thus.
(w/ no intention of supporting or subverting this thread, just
exploring something else that interests me)
vir bonus, dicendi peritus: Latin, originally by Cato, indicating an
ideal orator, preserved by Quintilian in the _Institutio Oratorio_,
perhaps the most influential rhetorical text from the ancient
Classical world. It's a dense phrase, so a bit hard to translate
meaningfully. Literally, it would be something like "a good man,
experienced in speaking", but every word, except perhaps "vir/man",
has nuance that resonates from earlier rhetorical, philosophical and
Hi! Tom IS a good writer. I just had to work his name into
the post quickly so I could spread a little cheer his way.
He is DEFINITELY a good writer; too bad he uses his talent
in a "bad" manner <g>. We just don't get along due to a
long history of mutual dislike. Sorry you didn't know the
reason for my post. I don't elucidate a lot. I try to keep
my posts reasonably short.
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