The Wreck - And Politics - And A New Pledge

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Tom: I am one of those who have flamed recent political postings. But I do agree that we good ole boys and girls should digress into other topics from time to time. This is a social group and groupies digress.
What I do oppose is single individuals that drop political or similar OT posting in mass. We have one, in particular, that is posting 2-3 at a time and this makes sifting through the good stuff more difficult.
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...and water is wet.

So you're a troll then, intentionally winding people up to watch the show. Good to know. <plonk>.
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Yeahbut - a really eloquent, learned one... :)
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Oh, my - and Socrates along with me, I suppose.
Regards, Tom.
"People funny. Life a funny thing." Sonny Liston
Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.) tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email) http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
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calmly ranted:

Hey, leave soCrates out of the plonkin' bidness, will ya?
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Is it any wonder that on 24 August 2004 I posted the following (and my sentiment remains unchanged):
Before anyone jumps me for my hypocrisy for posting in two threads currently running on the wreck, let me say that I regret my participation in those threads, but solely because I don't believe these threads belong here, whether they are labeled "Off Topic" or not. Justifying a post simply by labeling it "Off Topic" is akin to qualifying a racial or other odious slur by following it up with "just kidding." It's still odious and it's wrong.
Here's why I hate the political threads. I have spent a number of years on the wreck. I participate both here and on other woodworking fora on the internet on a regular basis. I have personally met dozens of fellow woodworkers from all over the country; a feat unthinkable before the 'net. Virtually all of the people that I've met have been people that I would be comfortable with in my house. I would enjoy conversing with them about woodworking and other topics of mutual interest.
When two (or more) people sit face to face it is almost unheard of for one of them to lean forward and say something anathema to the other's point of view; political, religious, or otherwise. I can't imagine someone doing that. It would be rude. It would be the height of inappropriate behavior. It would violate all rules of society.
Of all of the people I've met as described, I can honestly say I don't know the political inclinations of any of them. I didn't ask; they didn't tell. I don't want to know. And apparently they felt the same, because at the end of the day, they had not asked, either. That's not to say I don't have some inklings or suspicions, but I've not wanted to follow up to confirm.
The reason for that is I've seen too much lying, muckraking, prevarication, misinformation, mudslinging, unbelievable distortion of facts, all to political ends, for me to respect anyone that I believe is embracing those techniques and using them to further their particular ends. And I don't want to not respect the people I've become friends with. It hurts me to see someone whom I appreciate for their knowledge and experience in a particular area of woodworking (the reason I'm here) line up on the other side of what I believe.
In fact, I haven't been able to help but develop a list of wreckers who I wouldn't share a broken tool with, much less pleasant discourse; all because they couldn't contain their opinions on subjects that shouldn't be aired in a common interest forum for which those subjects would be off-topic.
Unfortunately, the anonymity behind which all who choose to can hide on the internet removes the constraints with which society holds a person with regard to his behavior.
Moreover, typing vitriol is virtually risk free as opposed to spewing it in person at the risk of a bloody nose. It's no surprise to me that we see so much of it on the internet. I'm not saying there's no place for it on the 'net; I know of at least a couple of "flame" newsgroups and several political ones where that is the appropriate medium.
I just think that the wreck is not one of them, and I don't want to find out about my friends' feet of clay. And that works across the spectrum; I'm sure there must be someone out there who is embarrassed about the way they've learned I feel.
Anyway, I expressed regret about joining the mob and its mentality and I meant it. And here is my pledge. No more will I engage in political (or other divisive) threads. It is not good for me, it is not good for my friends, it is not good for the wreck. The opinions expressed aren't going to change anyone's mind; it's naive for anyone to think so. That probably includes this one.
- - LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
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Yeah, I'm done too. Nobody can change anybody else's mind anyway.
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