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calmly ranted:

Are.
_Don't_ make me draw my Webbie's Hernia Edition...
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:20:53 -0700, Larry Jaques

Since it is the common name for a book it is singular. Think about it.

I'll see your hernia and raise you an OED.
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wrote:

On an entirely unrelated note, I owe you a word of thanks, since I swiped one o' your ideas.
Shellac on cast iron. Who'da thought? Awesome. "It needs waxed less often."
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wrote:

Not in England it isn't.
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 13:31:12 +0100, Andy Dingley

Yeah, youse guys is pretty much stuck with Fowler's. The closest we have to that is the Chicago Manual of Style but it suffers from the same disease as Fowler - a lack of wit.
I base this charge on the definition of a fairly good English stylist, who said, "...brevity is the soul of wit..." and thus Fowle'sr (and it's colonial cousin, The Chicago Manual) must be lacking in wit, as they are obviously lacking in brevity.
The Elements of Style ( by messrs Strunk and White) on the other hand, is brief to a fault and thus nearly faultless in it's wit.
(watson - who learned to love the spit infinitive by reading brother fowler, back when it still might have mattered)
Regards, Tom.
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<snip>

This term, the spit infinitive, was not a part of my education. Care to elucidate?
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:40:06 +0000, wrote:

To <boldly> go...'to go' boldly
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Australopithecus scobis wrote:

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patriarch <<patriarch> wrote:

Grammar: an 'infinitive' is the verb form 'to ', as in 'to be'.
To 'split' an infinitive is to insert a modifier _between_ the words that make up the verb. Sometimes one finds it necessary to brazenly split an infinitive, to convey the precise shade of meaning desired, although the process was strongly frowned-upon by strict grammarians.
One of the better known examples: "Boldly to go..." "To go boldly..." "To boldly go ... where no man has gone before."
In the general case, splitting the infinitive is considered to really be bad usage. (That sentence is a deliberate illustration of _why_ it is justly so considered. :) In comparatively rare cases, on the other hand, it does serve to convey a shade of meaning not available in the more 'formally correct' forms; see the usage of 'brazenly', above.
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 21:21:08 +0000, snipped-for-privacy@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

To be fair, Bob, I think he wanted to know about the "Spit" infinitive.
(watson - who baldly goes and spits out infinitives with abandon.)
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"Tom Watson" wrote in message

Once a requirement for HS English, probably not seen now until graduate school.
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I doubt even grad students see Strunk & White these days. Certainly J-School grads don't.
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Dave Balderstone responds:

My second writer's job was for a guy who had graduated from J-School...but not as a grad student. Just a BS. Still, my 3/4 of a degree in English lit put me way ahead of him at various times. He did know how to dig to get factual material, but he often couldn't assemble it so it made sense.
Of course, that was nearly 40 years ago, I finally completed the degree and Tim went on to bigger and better things working in PR for Aetna Insurance.
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That's why editors were invented, n'est ce pas?
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On 12 Sep 2004 00:16:33 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) calmly ranted:

Um, who was your first writer and what was his job, Charlie? <g> ("...second writing job", perhaps?) <parry, riposte, thrust>
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:41:28 -0600, Dave Balderstone

Seems to be true across the board. Even professional magazines, for example, Aviation Week, in addition to injecting editorial commentary into some news stories, is also declining in terms of grammatical quality.

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:40:14 -0400, Tom Watson wrote:

faultless in _its_ wit, dagnabit!
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:32:52 -0500, Australopithecus scobis

Der's for or fyve udders in dat post. wide ya pick on dat un?
Regards, Tom.
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:40:27 -0400, Tom Watson wrote:

Brevity
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:59:02 -0500, Australopithecus scobis

Brilliant!
Regards, Tom.
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